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that's not defending trump you fukking clown.

that's seeing someone blow up what looked like an insurmountable GOP field into an inevitable Hillary path to victory


You were literally screaming #Trumpset :russ:

Maybe you should’ve screamed #4DCHESS4Hillary and you wouldn’t have come off as a Trump supporter :mjlol:

But keep telling us how you are a strategist savant the likes of us plebs could never comprehend you dumb mf:mjgrin:
 

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My point was just say you don't like his policies. Just say that.

He's more liberal than Manchin.

But you'd hate him regardless of what letter is next to his name.

He's literally everything you hate. Centrist. Wealthy. Tough on crime.

Again, your initial point is people can't criticize Bernie for not being a Democrat, but like bloomberg because he was a republican at some point. But the people you're attempting to project this on are moderate or aren't off put by moderate policies.

Further, the criticism of Bernie is simple. He wants to reform a party he isn't a part of nor wants to be a part of.

If he hates the Dem platform he should run Third party and start his revolution. But he doesn't because he knows he needs the party he hates to further his own ambition.

Sure, Bloomberg's policies more or less align with the Dem Party right now. I'd even say he's on a Bernie or Liz-lite path.
But I’m looking at his record :gucci:

And my initial point is about the absurdity. We have a Republican Mayor of NYC who was gung-ho about the Bush administration and was terrible on civil liberties. Black people, Latinos, and Muslims were either stopped and frisked or surveilled. He just went ahead with the elimination of the 4th amendment. He banned bagel donations to the homeless. Like WTF breh...

Bernie has been caucusing with the Dems his entire time in Congress. He’s in the leadership of the Dem conference in the US Senate.

He has stood up for programs like Social Security the entire time.

Bloomberg was talking about cutting entitlements just a few years ago.

Has Sanders ever said he hated the Democratic Party? Made it his personal enemy? No. Could he have started a movement outside of the party when he was younger? Yes. But did he have ambitions outside of Vermont? I don't think he did. He only ran for President in 2016 because Elizabeth Warren didn't run.

And we're in a two-party system. He'd never run for the presidency on a 3rd party ticket not with trying to win back the Senate. Its one thing to do it in Vermont, its another for the whole country.

Bloomberg can do what he wants. Its good he's put his money to use on gun control. On climate change. That's fine. I have no problem with him using his own money as a huge ass Super-PAC in the general election for whoever the nominee is. Its the corrupt system we have which is disgusting. Trump and RNC will have the resources and the dark money will flood in October as it did in October 2016 which was a big reason why the Dems didn't win the Senate.
 

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Sure, but his policies pretty much fall in line with moderate dems even when he was a republican.

But that's neither here nor there.

Does bloomberg consider himself a Democrat?
Does Bernie consider himself a Democrat?

So the 2020 standard is how you feel yourself to be, regardless of actual history and stances? :mjgrin:
 

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You were literally screaming #Trumpset :russ:

Maybe you should’ve screamed #4DCHESS4Hillary and you wouldn’t have come off as a Trump supporter :mjlol:

But keep telling us how you are a strategist savant the likes of us plebs could never comprehend you dumb mf:mjgrin:
You're right about this.

I wanted Trump to RUIN the GOP field and get beat by Hillary.

I never liked him.

But thanks for admitting that you're spewing bullshyt.
 

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You're right about this.

I wanted Trump to RUIN the GOP field and get beat by Hillary.

I never liked him.

But thanks for admitting that you're spewing bullshyt.
I’m “spewing bullshyt” by posting a thread that has direct quotes from YOU:pachaha:


I have literal receipts. There is no bullshyt involved. I gave you a very generous reading of the situation that you were actually lying then and not now and that means I’m lying by directly quoting YOU Marcus? What a joke just shut the fukk up.
 

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As a "Boston Republican" like fake_mac likes to say, Bernie is the only candidate who actually and wholly represents real Democratic values. Values that people grew up admiring and could confidently stand behind and be proud of their party. Policies that put your average American first and your rich and/or corporations last.

Liz & Bloomberg were literally Republicans before.
Biden represents the crooked Hillary branch of the Dems.
Pete is a mini-Biden.

If you actually stand for Democratic Party principles, Bernie is the best, and really only, option.
 

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goonberg has HL shook :huhldup:

he's not actually gonna win the primary :mjlol:he might flex with his ad money, but it's not gonna translate into enough votes
 
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