2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[dora_da_destroyer]

i disagree with this, if people want to spend their money to run, it is what it is. steyer wouldn't have had an audience had he not. he's not going to get the nomination, but if he's serious about politics, he may have created a bigger grassroots lane for him in a state election or senate/house race and he has a pretty damn good platform worth hearing

there's also the discrepancy in how black politicians don't garner the same individual donor participation levels for a multitude of reasons, but it's not democracy to keep us out because we don't grassroots fundraise as successfully.

at the end of the day, someone like bloomberg is polling all on name recognition, not true intent. the best ideas don't always win, but i will say candidates who put in work often do, and he's put in zero work. also, his ties to local politicians may be what deliver more than his ads

It would be best for democracy if only individuals could contribute to campaigns directly or indirectly, up to a certain $ limit. No rich people having outsized influence by spending tens of millions of personal funds on ads. No corporations contributing unlimited cash via Super PACs. They gotta raise that ad money from the people. Let the best ideas win, not the deepest pockets.

But America is completely controlled by corporations and the rich, so that'll probably never happen.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Somebody got to be chaotic evil. She is the candidate of those who seek to take down the "establishment" and this is more of just how her image is among a lot of democrats. So she gets the chaotic label from the first part and the evil label for the second part. Its a joke. Don't take it too personally.

She fukks with Steve Bannon, was raised in a cult and is a Modi/Assad sympathizer. Evil it is.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

They don't need to travel to all 50 states. Also, each party can change which starts come first and in which order. The Democratic Party should move up some of the bigger states to be earlier.

Candidates should travel to a certain regions not states per se. That's very doable in 2-3 months.

you need to be in the states and connect to the people there, so many people vote just because they met you at an event and you left an impression. quite honestly, all the candidates have sounded better in their town halls, they need those types of events with the people in their home area. you also can't then go into the general not being a known entity in certain states.

 

[the cac mamba]

we should draft forward thinking laws, yes. why wait until a billionaire buys the election to pass legislation? we can (and should) be proactive when we recognize vulnerabilities in the system

so who are you to say how much an election should/will cost i mean i HEAR what you're saying, but it doesnt pan out in reality

i mean with all the problems we have with corruption in washington, billionaires funding their own campaigns is literally like the last one

 

[jj23]

Dems and Rethugs don't operate the same on this front.

Look at Roy Moore vs. Al Franken

None of them billionaires, unlimited money changes things. Hopefully I am wrong though.

 

[King Static X]

you need to be in the states and connect to the people there, so many people vote just because they met you at an event and you left an impression. quite honestly, all the candidates have sounded better in their town halls, they need those types of events with the people in their home area. you also can't then go into the general not being a known entity in certain states.

Well, then America is too big.

So the 2 year campaigning makes sense

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Biden is looking horrible out here but he has to stick through South Carolina because what we're seeing more and more out of Iowa and NH is that it is not representative of even half of the Democratic landscape.

I always laugh when these pundits make it seem like Pete for example is on the rise. Even if he is on the rise with moderate whites, what does that really mean? He's likely to get stomped out in places that aren't as moderate and white.

 

[No1]

i disagree with this, if people want to spend their money to run, it is what it is. steyer wouldn't have had an audience had he not. he's not going to get the nomination, but if he's serious about politics, he may have created a bigger grassroots lane for him in a state election or senate/house race and he has a pretty damn good platform worth hearing

there's also the discrepancy in how black politicians don't garner the same individual donor participation levels for a multitude of reasons, but it's not democracy to keep us out because we don't grassroots fundraise as successfully.

at the end of the day, someone like bloomberg is polling all on name recognition, not true intent. the best ideas don't always win, but i will say candidates who put in work often do, and he's put in zero work. also, his ties to local politicians may be what deliver more than his ads

The solution is publicly funded elections. Someone like Sanders is viable entirely because the internet made grassroots funding easy. But if you asked him if all these elections were to just be publicly funded then he would agree.

 

[Nobu]

so who are you to say how much an election should/will cost i mean i HEAR what you're saying, but it doesnt pan out in reality

i mean with all the problems we have with corruption in washington, billionaires funding their own campaigns is literally like the last one

Who is the FEC to say how much money normal people can contribute to a candidate?

The government limits normal people to only give up to $5000 to a candidate, while a billionaire can give hundreds of millions via their own SuperPAC ("as long as they don't directly coordinate with the candidate" )

Doesn't sound fair to me

 

[Listen]

Just did my civic duty.

It picked up in my ward real quick as everyone got out of work. In the end I tossed my vote to Amy over Steyer, though I had that ballot for like 3 minutes staring at it before I filled it out.

Also, for those not in the know, In NH you walk in as an independent. Once they find your name and you can pick from either ballot. Once you submit it, you can walk over to a book, tell them which ticket you took and sign your name next to it and you go back to undeclared for the next go round.

Kind of cool, not sure how other states do it.

 

[newworldafro]

Lol

The same type that opposed Bush for warmongering 2000 - 08, acted like they were deaf and dumb when Obama was escalating it in 3 new countries 2008 -16, and now calling Trump a Russian asset for not going further 2016 - 20.

That Type.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

The solution is publicly funded elections. Someone like Sanders is viable entirely because the internet made grassroots funding easy. But if you asked him if all these elections were to just be publicly funded then he would agree.

i actually dont agree with publicly funded elections either, not if it's coming from a tax on individuals. i think there are structural changes that could make campaigning more affordable but i wouldn't want to be paying into some election pot with no control over who my money supports, nor do i see these millionaire candidates (moreso at the national level) as good places to be spending public money on, especially with how dysfunctional washington is

 

[King Static X]

Just did my civic duty.

It picked up in my ward real quick as everyone got out of work. In the end I tossed my vote to Amy over Steyer, though I had that ballot for like 3 minutes staring at it before I filled it out.

Also, for those not in the know, In NH you walk in as an independent. Once they find your name and you can pick from either ballot. Once you submit it, you can walk over to a book, tell them which ticket you took and sign your name next to it and you go back to undeclared for the next go round.

Kind of cool, not sure how other states do it.

In NY, it's different. I went to the DMV to get my ID and when you're at the clerk to get your ID, you can use this electronic screen to register as a Democrat, Republican , independent, etc. I tapped Democratic and then that was it. This was in November 2017.

 

[tru_m.a.c]