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Seriously?

.....over the course of the year for the 4 people in your family what do you pay for health insurance? Guessing it adds up to more than 5k. :francis:

Probably before adding co-pays. Before adding costs of medications. Not to mention other unexpected medical expenditures. Like...come on, man.
If Bernie’s plan raises your out of Pocket costs than you can’t be doing that badly and I don’t feel bad for you
 

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Exactly man. I’m sick of this that we have to walk on eggshells but the right goes ham. fukk that this is why we lose cause of this p*ssy shyt. Man honestly most liberals or people that support typical democrats really are some crybaby ass weaklings man it is what it is , now bernie and the supporters he attracts finally bring some strength to the party and those clown ass typical dem losers are scared af, shyt I expect it from the elite and establishment but not the voters , fukk a moderate Nina turner all day

Passive aggressive, p*ssy hat democrats.

Even garbage ass Bill Maher understands, you can't go up against Trump or his horde without being ready for a fight.

You give them a grubby populist campaign that can rival that energy and they spend the whole fukking time panicking, tone policing poor folk and people in solidarity with them so they can at least stay feeling comfortable in their own lives while they lose to Trump.
 

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Seriously?

.....over the course of the year for the 4 people in your family what do you pay for health insurance? Guessing it adds up to more than 5k. :francis:

Probably before adding co-pays. Before adding costs of medications. Not to mention other unexpected medical expenditures. Like...come on, man.

Yang dropped out nikka, we ain't doing no MATH over here :mjlol:
 

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Trump directly benefits their ratings and bottom line.
If you suspect that an entire corporate entity is voting agains their economic interests you're nuts.
These people aren't journalists...they're actors.
ive never watched more CNN in my life before 2016 :yeshrug:

these people have a VESTED interest in trump winning in 2020 :dead:
 

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You act like we haven’t seen this before. People are greedy.

People want stuff but don’t want to pay for it. That’s the knock.

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-Fix this road
-we need to raise taxes
- nope.

Road doesn’t get fixed

-Government is corrupt and does nothing for us


The Obamacare/Kentucky connect thing is all you need to know about why people are side eyeing Sanders
This narrative gets disproven literally every month. Americans know that the overwhelming majority of wealth is hoarded by the rich in this country, and that that wealth should be used to fund public programs.

Majority of Americans favor wealth tax on very rich: Reuters/Ipsos poll
Most Americans Support Increasing Taxes on the Wealthy: Poll

The question is about how we pay for things, not whether or not we pay for things. No one thinks health insurance is free. The question is, do you want to pay $300 a month for shyt coverage that has high premiums that you can lose if you ever lose your job, or do you want to pay $100 for Medicare and be covered for everything for the rest of your life. The value proposition wins.
 
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Like how Dems lost 2017, 2018, and 2019, right? :aicmon:

@Rhakim

2017/2019 are borderline irrelevant aside from a few governors races. And Dems still lost Senate Seats in 2018.

We'll have to see what happens this year but at the rate things are going it doesn't really look good.
 

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I keep seeing cacs talking about black voters and getting the black vote but what about the hispanic vote? Its almost insulting at times how they talk about us. I never see/hear that same energy when it comes to the Hispanic vote.

Because demcorats have been using black folks as a firewall for like a century right now.

Dems pander to us to make sure we offset the racist base that Republicans pander to with the 'southern strategy', which is why the party and the media weaponizing identity needs to be called the fukk out. They count on us, but are the first people they scapegoat when shyt doesn't pan out. p*ssy hats tried to blame black folk for Trump, they gonna blame us for Bootyjuice too and call black folk at large homophobic.

Meanwhile, pandering is all a lot of us know, it's familiar, it feels right and if someone decides to bypass the pandering we feel left out.
 

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I still maintain the idea that it's not Warren but the people around her. She's stepped on more rakes than anybody in this race besides Biden. This strategy of coupling herself with Amy and attacking Bernie while Bernie's support is extra sticky and Amy eats into her support is just not smart. She made the same mistake focusing on the Bernie drama while Pete ate away at her lead. Her campaign hasn't been good since she was forced on the defensive and I don't think it's her, her platform is still pretty damned good. But the people around her still don't know how to play to her strengths and avoid her weaknesses...
Fair but I will only say she did have to sign off on all this stuff she has to take some blame , just on policy warren would still be my number two but I lost all trust in her this primary and I actually feel slightly foolish for not seeing it before since all the signs were there that she’s a rank careerist. I wasn’t one of the people mad at her for 2016 but once she backed off m4a and then smeared Bernie nah I just can’t fukk with her anymore
 

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Reading this mornings hot takes and everyone attacking Tommy owes him an apology


If you can't debate without personal insults maybe rethink your position and come up with something else.


I also think a lot of you forgot what the primary process entails.
 

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If Bernie’s plan raises your out of Pocket costs than you can’t be doing that badly and I don’t feel bad for you

Haha fukk the middle class amirite, Bernie Bro?


Amirite?


This all or nothing, us vs you attitude is Trumpian as f'ck but you guys have the blinders on.
 

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Here comes the whiny centrists lol same people

That’s why I don’t usually come in the general threads in higher learning shyt is like Twitter
 

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Haha fukk the middle class amirite, Bernie Bro?


Amirite?
Define middle class? You need to be making like 250k I believe for you to actually have increased out of pocket. Foh those people will have three cars , go on ten vacations a year and be like “ I’m struggling” clowns like this all over the nyc metro area, not surprised you’re the one caping though you centrist . Don’t you have to accuse someone of mansplaing something ?
 

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Fox is playing a dangerous game. Normalizing the Sanders campaign to their audience and having their folks on all the time.... I dunno. It seems like they’re being petty and doing it to spite other democrats but it could backfire


Fox is playing the long game.

For years, Fox has been seen as a joke and an extension of the GOP. They see how much CNN and MSNBC is becoming the new "Fox" and they are trying to counter the obvious bias they have against Sanders for optics.

Some of them actually think it's a smart move to boost him up, kinda like how Hillary and the DNC thought building up Trump to win the primary would be a good strategy.

Go head

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Haha fukk the middle class amirite, Bernie Bro?


Amirite?


This all or nothing, us vs you attitude is Trumpian as f'ck but you guys have the blinders on.
None of the other candidates giving us shyt , what Pete Bootyjudge or Amy going to do to help people ? Bernie asking for the moon is the only chance we got to get anything
 
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