My take is and always has been that this is a center left country and the dems are still a center left party.
The fact that you can't win the presidency without younger more progressive voters doesn't change that. Particularly because the same can be said about any major block of dem voters.
But ultimately I think we agree on this.
Yeah, we definitely agree on this. I was admonishing the people who think otherwise.
He did. That's why I often group him with Manchin. I think they operate the same overall spectrum despite being more liberal and conservative in different areas. For example, the environment and gun control.
I don't like that comparison because it does a disservice to Manchin. It's accurate from a policy perspective, but they have different political realities. That's an important distinction. Manchin takes compromising positions to remain viable in WV (he never is the deciding vote when he backs the GOP), Bloomberg takes compromising positions because he's just a piece of shyt. Again, you aren't wrong about this.
I think that Sanders is a good and crafty politicians who has been doing this his entire life. It is sad to me that he doesn't have a larger coalition with a group he's caucused with for 3 decades. Maybe it's because he isn't interested. Maybe it's because it's not in his repertoire, but I think it's a big deal.
At far as bloomberg, I was wrong and thought he was still a dem when he was mayor. But his policies pretty much say to me that he's a billionaire who has a few pet projects but still ultimately holds negative views of minorities and the poor. Still, he'd fall in line with moderate dems because he craves power just like Trump.
You probably have a higher opinion of Sanders than I do.
On to Bloomberg, I don't fully know that he will fall in line and I don't like the precedent this sets. I wasn't joking when I said Zuckerberg and Bezos are gleefully waiting to see how much the presidency costs. Zuckerberg already stated he has presidential ambitions and he can easily run a variation of the Bloomberg playbook Anyway, reading up on some of the stuff he does makes me uncertain about how he'd behave. It's the money and how he uses it that's mostly objectable. I also need to know more about how he'd fill the judiciary.
I'm not going to post the whole thread because that's tacky but it's a good read:
This last bit especially makes me look at all the other multibillionaires in this country with unease:
a couple of them - NY born & raised & current resident at that, but reinforced the offline "appeal" of bloomberg as a real threat. and opened my mind to the fact that even black voters may be swayed by the momentum of candidates (amy, pete, bloom) who are being torn apart online for being bad on black issues. it hasn't hit the less engaged yet, and if/when it does, will it matter?
