2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[FAH1223]

Making moves in Texas

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

This has more to do with money and the fact that there aren’t many candidates of color who can run as progressives and be grassroots funded like Warren and Sanders.

this is why i can't get behind the this "only grassroots funded candidates" matter. outside of sports, in no facet of life have black people been able to play the game the way white people get to play it. you can't overnight decide that only one funding mechanism makes and candidate acceptable without looking at the downstream impact.

 

[dtownreppin214]

been my gripe from jump. any one of them wins, other than maybe warren, who'd still be old, it's a one term president. opening up a dem primary again after just four years plus an invigorated republican party ready to take the white house back, just seems like a terrible position to be in.

Yeah if Bernie wins the nomination, his VP pick has to be someone who can carry the torch in four years. That limits his options to Warren, Abrams, and Harris.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

public option, sure
no
agreed

 

[the kid]

Liz raised 5 mil off the debate last night. Glad I chipped in a little.

 

[No1]

this is why i can't get behind the this "only grassroots funded candidates" matter. outside of sports, in no facet of life have black people been able to play the game the way white people get to play it. you can't overnight decide that only one funding mechanism makes and candidate acceptable without looking at the downstream impact.

Yeah, but the black congressman we have now are showing what happens - they are seldom better than a white liberal on any issue. They all have the same masters. I would rather focus on special interest groups or our revolution that are well-funded and promote progressive people of color than just give everyone a pass. There’s no way candidates of color who answer to a progressive black base would be caping for Bloomberg.

 

[No1]

I’m still struggling to believe that Steyer performs that well. But I do love the millions of dollars in anti Bloomberg ads he is starting to launch right now.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Yeah, but the black congressman we have now are showing what happens - they are seldom better than a white liberal on any issue. They all have the same masters. I would rather focus on special interest groups or our revolution that are well-funded and promote progressive people of color than just give everyone. Pass. There’s no way candidates of color who answer to a progressive black base would be caping first Bloomberg.

but the south/southeast will, for awhile at least, always produce more moderate black candidates. and that's where a lot of our representation comes from, their ceiling will be limited under this view. then there's the fact that black progressives coming from more racially mixed areas aren't seen as black enough to some black voters (thus cant gain a first line of traction needed to move up into the national discussion), and those coming from black areas are often poorer areas and thus the funding issue. from multiple angles, this new game is gentrifying politics.

some of yall give it a pass because you're progressive above all, my life has been shaped by my race far more than class, so my default view is seeing this as another way to erase black voices.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

 

[duncanthetall]

Wonder what candidate we may get a twitter response from

 

[No1]

but the south/southeast will, for awhile at least, always produce more moderate black candidates. and that's where a lot of our representation comes from, their ceiling will be limited under this view. then there's the fact that black progressives coming from more racially mixed areas aren't seen as black enough to some black voters (thus cant gain a first line of traction needed to move up into the national discussion), and those coming from black areas are often poorer areas and thus the funding issue. from multiple angles, this new game is gentrifying politics.

some of yall give it a pass because you're progressive above all, my life has been shaped by my race far more than class, so my default view is seeing this as another way to erase black voices.

I’ve said time and time again that liberal White people annoy me. But all my skin folk ain’t my kinfolk. I’m not one for tokenism. I disagree with the notion that progressive Black people aren’t black enough. That is part of our political history. I’m much more annoyed by whitewashed moderate Black people in the workplace than almost anyone else. My life has been defined by race and class. Even today, I fit in better with black folks who didn’t grow up well off. I relate more to Nas than Obama even though I’m professionally closer to where he was. The politics of Black people in the south will be more moderate on social issues but I don’t know if they have to be on economic issues. Why would someone representing poor districts in the south not be a progressive if the opportunity was there?

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Liz raised 5 mil off the debate last night. Glad I chipped in a little.

i've donated to her and she's the only candidate i'll donate to. while it's vote blue almost no matter who, she's the only one i'm opening the wallet for

 

[duncanthetall]

 

[Uno Venova]

Wonder what candidate we may get a twitter response from

WHEEEEWW

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I’ve said time and time again that liberal White people annoy me. But all my skin folk ain’t my kinfolk. I’m not one for tokenism. I disagree with the notion that progressive Black people aren’t black enough. That is part of our political history. I’m much more annoyed by whitewashed moderate Black people in the workplace than almost anyone else. My life has been defined by race and class. Even today, I fit in better with black folks who didn’t grow up well off. I relate more to Nas than Obama even though I’m professionally closer to where he was. The politics of Black people in the south will be more moderate on social issues but I don’t know if they have to be on economic issues. Why would someone representing poor districts in the south not be a progressive if the opportunity was there?

I didn't say they weren't black enough, I said the ones that come from less black districts aren't seen as "black enough" by those who live in blacker areas - political spectrum aside. There are black areas where people want to see that a black politician has led in the black community.

You can't separate social issue views from economic ones when it comes to voting. People have let personal views sway economics for ages.

And I think you read my post wrong, the issue is progressive black politicians coming from poor districts have constituents who can't give/have higher priorities for their money than giving it to politicians/bankrolling elections. They don't have that funding mechanism nor do they have whiteness to hide behind to garner funds from white donors outside their district unless they just so happen to be one of the few tapped by the movement.