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She didn't lie about it. She gave you a plan that shows you exactly how it will be paid for.

Then you all got into an argument about head tax and payroll taxes.

But I'm starting to surmise that you all don't like it because Bernie didn't propose it.

But until he releases a plan I guess we should table this discussion. :yeshrug:

I don't care who's plan they go with as loing as we get to the finishline on m4a.

She kept dodging and pretending the middle class wouldn't see an increase. She presented her plan that had an increase in it and then she tumbled cause she got caught lying.

Bernie been keeping it 100 from the start. So, even though he's also going to tax the middle class he's still climbing in the polls
 

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I don't care who's plan they go with as loing as we get to the finishline on m4a.

She kept dodging and pretending the middle class wouldn't see an increase. She presented her plan that had an increase in it and then she tumbled cause she got caught lying.
warrens plan with no tax increase is a blatant lie :yeshrug: i lost respect for her on that

if were gonna provide medicare for all 330 million people, taxes on the middle class CLEARLY provide that revenue :dead: to think otherwise is asinine
 

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My point is that I don't think @Pressure or any other upper-middle class folks are the bad guys here.

This is a little more complex than bad guys and good guys.

We take it back to MLK's view on white moderates...were they bad guys? Especially when you compared them to the KKK? Of course not. But even if they didn't engage in overt racism, had black friends or even ideals that resembled progress, if that progress has to come at the expense of their white privilege, or money (which gains you privilege) it's :whoa:

Bad people with malicious intent? Or just self interested? I don't think there are many 'bad' people in this thread, but there are people here who have made it clear that their middle upper class considerations takes priority. That's gucci, the issue is getting the poor and working class to do the same, especially considering they are the in majority.
 

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what do you call someone with a quarter-million posts on a message board?
a fukking loser

Imagine having a phd in a stem field. Making six figures, living in atl where there are more women to men ratio wise, yet you have a quarter million post in less than 10 years.....

 

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:mjlol:

This ain't it chief.


Sanders averages more Agreed To(i.e. Passed) amendments than Warren in the Senate.

He's getting things done, moreso than she is if that's the metric you want to go by.

He's at 8 per session and she's at 5 per session.

Sanders is Co-Sponsoring more bills that be become law on average than Warren. He's at 7.5 per session and she's at 7.1


So...how is she better again at this?
 
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