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This probably hurts Trump more than anything. Dems should hammer it home how much universal healthcare would be vital in a pandemic like this.

Mark my Words: The Coronavirus and the events that spark from it will end Trump's presidency in Nov. This epidemic will expose how predatory the insurance companies are, how the economy crashes, and how careless Trump is with poor people.

Bernie's message only gets stronger as time goes on.
 

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"halfway progressive" :upsetfavre:

So if you think her only path to victory can't happen, she's of no threat and shouldn't be engendering such focused ire and vitriol. If you really believe what you're saying, then smartest, most progressive move from Bernie's side would just be to let her campaign die its natural, inevitable death while highlighting their shared progressive principles to woo her supporters. She's of no threat to Bernie. But instead, we've seen her being attacked more by the biggest Bernie boosters than even Bloomberg in the past few weeks. She just disemboweled that man on national TV and might end up being the biggest reason he gets taken down and these people respond with...doubling down on attacking her and now demanding she be primaried. These aren't progressives, they're just Bernie stans. He backtracks on immigration stance and it's crickets from them, but Liz votes for Gerald Ford in 1974 and it's an unforgivable sin. shyt's pathetic.

Bernie and his campaign is ignoring her, as they should when they could be defending themselves and pointing out her lies.

Bernie supporters on the other hand are saying fukk her and rightfully so for implying that she, the supposed 'ally' of the progressives that make up his base is actively looking to play a role in subverting the will of the people. She deserves to be attacked by people who's votes would be wasted if this strategy works.
 

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Mark my Words: The Coronavirus and the events that spark from it will end Trump's presidency in Nov. This epidemic will expose how predatory the insurance companies are, how the economy crashes, and how careless Trump is with poor people.

Bernie's message only gets stronger as time goes on.
It also exposes how fukked up out capitalist economy is.

Because best believe they're going to be people with symptoms that are actually sick but will still go to work and spread it, because companies would have you rather die than take a sick day.:francis:
 

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it makes perfect sense Bernie said Bloomberg’s wealth is immoral right? How the fukk can Bernie tell that shyt to Bloomberg? Bloomberg wasn’t born rich? Dude ground and earned his billions... That’s where the hypocrisy comes in with Bernie, us poor folk can say to Bernie his millions is immoral even tho he only worth 3 mill.. how many Americans for $3 mill laying around in cash let allow assets?

I am not even a Bernie supporter, Yang than Joe and then whoever gets the nominee I'll support.

But a nonconsensual argument I'll always put out. Your argument makes no sense at all.

The fact that you think Bernie is saying that all wealth accumulation is immoral shows you can comprehend the nuances of wealth accumulation. If a person is lucky enough to have worked without incident for 50 years and being frugal they will be a millionaire. Being frugal means you understand that it's hard out there to survive so save excessively.

Second, the notion that if one is wealthier than other means one cant relate to other people's problems than explain to me how Congressmen and women and senators can relate to people that they are 12 times richer than. It's a flawed argument. Your candidate who I dont know is way wealthier than the average American.

Third, Bernie is just saying people who are wealthier people need to pay their fair share and that is true. Nothing about wealth being immoral.
 
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You a thorough dude and I respect the hell out of your opinion, so I'll defer to you on this on breh :hubie:

Brooks just left a very bad taste in my mouth this entire primary :francis:

I ain't mad at that. I know he's gotten some frustrations out in some clips (he did the she should drop out thing pretty early on some "right back at you") but the tone has always been way different imo. To be fair though, she's been on thin ice and this PAC thing might be a last straw. With Warren there's an exasperation like "we're this close" tone vs Bloomberg and Buttigeig which is "I absolutely hate this guy" :russ:

Not saying he's not harsher than others and sometimes too harsh in my view. I'm more on the Emma Vigeland and Ben Dixon tip (though Ben's lost patience with her recently in his own right). Sometimes frustrated with the strategic choices but I get it most of the time...minus the Amy buddy up.
 

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Bernie and his campaign is ignoring her, as they should when they could be defending themselves and pointing out her lies.

Bernie supporters on the other hand are saying fukk her and rightfully so for implying that she, the supposed 'ally' of the progressives that make up his base is actively looking to play a role in subverting the will of the people. She deserves to be attacked by people who's votes would be wasted if this strategy works.
Elizabeth Warren goes out every single night and fights like hell to inject the idea of a fukking WEALTH TAX against the 1% into this country's collective consciousness and curb stomp one of the richest men in this country in the name of universal childcare, universal healthcare, racial justice, climate justice, mass student loan forgiveness, mass public education spending, ending the forever wars and creating an equitable environment for the working class in this country.

Yet because she has to audacity to say the same fukking thing Bernie said when he was in her position, and daring to say she thinks she'd do a better job than he would, she is "deservedly" excommunicated from the progressive movement...y'all can keep whatever movement you think it is you're building.

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I ain't mad at that. I know he's gotten some frustrations out in some clips (he did the she should drop out thing pretty early on some "right back at you") but the tone has always been way different imo. To be fair though, she's been on thin ice and this PAC thing might be a last straw. With Warren there's an exasperation like "we're this close" tone vs Bloomberg and Buttigeig which is "I absolutely hate this guy" :russ:

Not saying he's not harsher than others and sometimes too harsh in my view. I'm more on the Emma Vigeland and Ben Dixon tip (though Ben's lost patience with her recently in his own right). Sometimes frustrated with the strategic choices but I get it most of the time...minus the Amy buddy up.
I have nothing but respect for Emma and Ben. They're definitely rolling deep with Team Bernie, but they showed Warren respect and rarely if ever traded in the horseshyt attacks that a lot of other "leftist" commentators have.
 

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:picard: they dont give a fukk


It’s all facts though :yeshrug:

Maybe if Bernie had spent his life getting Bloomberg, Steyer or Trump type money he could run as an Independent, self-finance everything and tell all the Democrats to kiss his ass. That’s smart. It’s not a smart strategy to anger all the power brokers you need to win. Please don’t do this in your own personal career to whoever reading my post. Please learn to play the game, learn how to bullshyt and how to network with whoever you have to, to get ahead. Bernie was on some other shyt :mjlol:
 

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I am not even a Bernie supporter, Yang than Joe and then whoever gets the nominee I'll support.

But a nonconsensual argument I'll always put out. Your argument makes no sense at all.

The fact that you think Bernie is saying that all wealth accumulation is immoral shows you can comprehend the nuances of wealth accumulation. If a person is lucky enough to have worked without incident for 50 years and being frugal they will be a millionaire. Being frugal means you understand that it's hard out there to survive so save excessively.

Second, the notion that if one is wealthier than other means one cant relate to other people's problems explains to me how congressmen, women and senators relate to people that they are 12 times richer than. It's a flawed argument. Your candidate who I dont know is. Without knowing who that is way wealthier than the average American.

Third, Bernie is just saying people who are wealthier people need to pay their fair share and that is true. Nothing about wealth being immoral.

I see the nuances but I’m talking Bernie specifically point to Bloomberg telling him his wealth is immoral... Bloomberg took that dig personal knowing he had to grind for them billions while Bernie standing there acting like he ain’t a rich dude :mjlol:
 

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Now I don't claim to have watched every episode of TMBS, but every single time I tune in he's peddling some fact-free, conspiratorial nonsense about Warren being a trojan horse shytty candidate.

I can do the same thing with Warren that you did with Bloomberg: The Michael Brooks Show

That Brooks is pushing the same amount of criticisms of Elizabeth Warren as MICHAEL fukkING BLOOMBERG indicates to me he's either a bad faith actor or has fallen down the dirtbag leftist twitter hole and has lost all sense of proportionality. I'm not saying don't make principled criticisms of Warren, but the obsession with training your fire on your closest ally is pathological and typical for social media leftists who are more concerned with eating their own and pathologically policing the clubhouse they're trying to build instead of doing the hard work of building an actual coalition that will deliver material benefits for the lives of working people. I don't want this dude anywhere near the progressive movement that this country desperately needs to build.
Yeah,
I use to really like his show before this election started. He does a great job covering foreign policy. But his Warren hate has become unbearable. Sam Seder has been trying to talk sense into him and and the people that think like him. Sam been stating how they shouldn’t alienate supporters of other candidates.
 
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Elizabeth Warren goes out every single night and fights like hell to inject the idea of a fukking WEALTH TAX against the 1% into this country's collective consciousness and curb stomp one of the richest men in this country in the name of universal childcare, universal healthcare, mass student loan forgiveness, mass public education spending, ending the forever wars and creating an equitable environment for the working class in this country.

Yet because she has to audacity to say the same fukking thing Bernie said when he was in her position, and daring to say she thinks she'd do a better job than he would, she is deservedly excommunicated from the progressive movement...y'all can keep whatever movement you think it is you're building.

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Same situation?

When was Elizabeth Warren running in a competitive 2 person race with rules that allowed superdelegates to basically broadcast who they'd already chosen to be the nominee? She hasn't been competitive in this race for a while now and has no path to the nomination besides a desperate attempt to have it handed to her despite maybe not winning one state.

She should be criticized, I honestly wish Bernie would stop ignoring her loser ass and actually check her for lying but I also know that will be followed by pearl clutching and promotion of false narrative from people who have spent more time whining about her losing than helping her win.
 
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