2025 NYC Mayor Race

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

They are criminals. You just want to give them a pass on the first law they broke.
If you mean by crossing the border without papers? That's a civil offense, not a felony.

A crime is a crime

How much crime is good?
None, but pretending we can police our way to zero crime is fantasy. You want safety? You fix housing, schools, healthcare and jobs.

Good we can get rid of illegals.

Do you support defunding the police?
I supporting funding solutions that work. If that means shifting money from bloated polices budgets, to services that reduce crime at the room, then yeah. Call it what you want, the point is safety and not slogans.

Great so why are you taking funding away from police?

Those are good laws. Whats the problem?
The problem is they target poverty, and not behavior. You get fined for sleeping in pubic, or locked up because you can't afford bail, not because your a threat.

Yes. Vagrancy laws maintain peace and order

Bail reform failed by giving too many repeat offenders too many chances to be released early and charges outright droppeda
Bad implementation failed. Reform didn't mean let everyone out forever, it meant stop locking up nonviolent folks because they are broke.

It’s always implementation excuses with you types. Maybe the idea is bad?

Should illegal migrants be in the country?
They are already here; working, paying taxes, raising families, and being exploited. The question is: Do we want this country that treats people with dignity, or one that scapegoats them while billionaires loot it blind?

What does that have to do with being in the country illegally ?

If police are the backstop, then it means everything else failed: housing, healthcare, jobs, education. So why are we pouring endless money into the backstop while letting the entire system rot?

Yes. So the backstop has a purpose.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[the cac mamba]

They are criminals. You just want to give them a pass on the first law they broke.
If you mean by crossing the border without papers? That's a civil offense, not a felony.

crossing the border illegally is a crime, in every country on earth, and the punishment is deportation

the left needs to drop this stupid "muh maybe maybe not" talking point, and it's embarrassing that progressives have a problem with simple, direct questions that don't fit their narrative

Should illegal migrants be in the country?
They are already here; working, paying taxes, raising families, and being exploited.

another bullshyt ass talking point. illegals cost the country far more in public services than they pay in in taxes; they're exploiting the country right back

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[MushroomX]

A crime is a crime


Good we can get rid of illegals.


Great so why are you taking funding away from police?


Yes. Vagrancy laws maintain peace and order


It’s always implementation excuses with you types. Maybe the idea is bad?


What does that have to do with being in the country illegally ?


Yes. So the backstop has a purpose.

A crime is a crime
And all crimes are not equal... crossing a border to escape violence/poverty isn't the same as sexual assault.

Good we can get rid of illegals.
You can’t just “get rid” of them like trash: it’s inhumane, unworkable, and bad economics.

Great so why are you taking funding away from police?
Because flooding police departments with more money hasn’t solved root problems. We’re spending billions to react to crime instead of preventing it.

Yes. Vagrancy laws maintain peace and order
Vagrancy laws criminalize survival when people have no other option. That’s not peace and order; it’s using the justice system to hide poverty instead of solve it.

It’s always implementation excuses with you types. Maybe the idea is bad?
If your kid fails a test because the teacher gave them the wrong material, do you say school’s a bad idea? No, you fix what went wrong.

What does that have to do with being in the country illegally ?
It has everything to do with it. You're treating immigration like a moral failing when it’s often the result of global inequality, war, or U.S. foreign policy. People are here because they’re trying to survive, and once they’re here, they contribute.

Yes. So the backstop has a purpose.
Sure, it does. But what we’ve done is make the backstop the entire structure. It’s like relying on an emergency room to treat every health issue in the country. The purpose of a backstop isn’t to carry the whole load, it’s to catch the exceptions.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

A crime is a crime
And all crimes are not equal... crossing a border to escape violence/poverty isn't the same as sexual assault.

Asylum applicants are documented migrants. FYI

Good we can get rid of illegals.
You can’t just “get rid” of them like trash: it’s inhumane, unworkable, and bad economics.

Yes we can. It’s always happened. They broke basic border policy.

Great so why are you taking funding away from police?
Because flooding police departments with more money hasn’t solved root problems. We’re spending billions to react to crime instead of preventing it.

A stronger backstop helps a weaker policy floor

Yes. Vagrancy laws maintain peace and order
Vagrancy laws criminalize survival when people have no other option. That’s not peace and order; it’s using the justice system to hide poverty instead of solve it.

Not my problem. Raise your standards.

It’s always implementation excuses with you types. Maybe the idea is bad?
If your kid fails a test because the teacher gave them the wrong material, do you say school’s a bad idea? No, you fix what went wrong.

What does this bullshyt have to do with bail reform?

What does that have to do with being in the country illegally ?
It has everything to do with it. You're treating immigration like a moral failing when it’s often the result of global inequality, war, or U.S. foreign policy. People are here because they’re trying to survive, and once they’re here, they contribute.

Illegal immigrants spit in the faces of legal immigrants

Yes. So the backstop has a purpose.
Sure, it does. But what we’ve done is make the backstop the entire structure. It’s like relying on an emergency room to treat every health issue in the country. The purpose of a backstop isn’t to carry the whole load, it’s to catch the exceptions.

The purpose of the backstop is to be firm and complete.

 

[Loose]

so basically, they're great at winning dark blue areas, and nothing else. how long have i been saying that for?

I'm trying to figure out when in the last 40 years? Dems have backed or messaged anythinf to the left outside of centrism since what clinton?. So how in the fukk do you know they can't win outside of dark blue states ? Because the dnc establishment told you so?

 

[Nero Christ]

Nap’s descent into incel is finally complete

 

[the cac mamba]

I'm trying to figure out when in the last 40 years? Dems have backed or messaged anythinf to the left outside of centrism since what clinton?. So how in the fukk do you know they can't win outside of dark blue states ? Because the dnc establishment told you so?

because....they don't

elissa slotkin didn't have progressive challengers in her primary? shapiro?

 

[3rdLetter]

Jews in Five Towns told her to get out there and say something

 

[Loose]

because....they don't

elissa slotkin

She was picked by the democrat establishment to run for that seat, what are you even arguing ? They literally put money and resources behind her in her primary to beat hill Harper.

 

[wire28]

because....they don't

elissa slotkin didn't have progressive challengers in her primary? shapiro?

A good test for this will be coming up. Abdul Sayed going up against two white Womens. I like Abdul but I’ve already been burned once (he lost to big gretch back in the day)

 

[KFBF]

Nap’s descent into incel is finally complete

Only coli poster I have to regularly put on ignore. But there are times where the thread is like 16 people telling him he's an idiot and @the cac mamba backing him up. I always regret taking his dumbass off ignore.