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Outlaw

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I don't agree with you. You seem to think Joe biden administration was good. We have a large fundamental difference in opinion. They voted for biden to improve their material conditions he failed, they tried the opposite with trump, trumps failing
Biden’s administration was better than the alternative which is the point. On one end you argue swing voters can call balls and strikes fairly, they’re smart enough to know which candidate would be better for the economy but at the same time they weren’t smart enough to know Trump was being a con man.

How many times are you going to contradict yourself?
 

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Biden’s administration was better than the alternative which is the point.

it's not the point this is NOT 1994. It's time for you and the democrat party establishment to stop governing based on this mentality. The parties have been swinging back and forth since then for a reason.
On one end you argue swing voters can call balls and strikes fairly, they’re smart enough to know which candidate would be better for the economy

Neither candidate was good for the ecomomy, all they had from a data perspective as low information voters was trump 1s ecomomy being better than bidens. Now if Biden actually was a effective communicator and not a corpse maybe he could have explained why prices was higher every month of his term instead of sending his surrogates out to insult voters with inflation stats every few months
but at the same time they weren’t smart enough to know Trump was being a con man.

Why wasn't biden smart enough to govern the country to the point a conman could not win ?
How many times are you going to contradict yourself?

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just keep in mind that when the people answering these polls hear "generic democrat", they're thinking Shapiro and Fetterman. not Mamdani and Jayapal :mjlol:



Confused what u babbling to me right now. Me and @Outlaw having a grown man convo. Keep it pushing republican cac scrap :camby:
 

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Voting for Trump does my point because it proves that swing voters can be tricked into voting for the most putrid type of Republican
Almost like the ecomomy is more important than whatever boogie man shyt the dems run on every 4 years. This isn't 2004 , running on so and so being a threat to democracy is not something the news can no longer condition and convince the masses on. People get their information from a billion places.

Nobody got "tricked" into voting for Trump, they knew exactly what they were voting for. Nor is the economy the main reason he won.

It really seems like a lot of people are in denial about how many voters are knowingly voting for White/Christian nationalism. It's not something that voters overlooked, it's Trump's main appeal. It doesn't do anyone any good, least of all Democrats, to act like Trump voters somehow don't know what they're voting for.
 

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Nobody got "tricked" into voting for Trump, they knew exactly what they were voting for. Nor is the economy the main reason he won.

Is is the main reason he won. You confusing maga republicans with independent voters. Two totally different topics. Maga republicans are christian nationalist. The swing voters are regular voters who vote based on whose offering the better vision
It really seems like a lot of people are in denial about how many voters are knowingly voting for White/Christian nationalism. It's not something that voters overlooked, it's Trump's main appeal. It doesn't do anyone any good, least of all Democrats, to act like Trump voters somehow don't know what they're voting for.
Yes maga are white Christian nationalist which is why his floor is 35% we've known that for a decade now
 
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Nobody got "tricked" into voting for Trump, they knew exactly what they were voting for. Nor is the economy the main reason he won.

It really seems like a lot of people are in denial about how many voters are knowingly voting for White/Christian nationalism. It's not something that voters overlooked, it's Trump's main appeal. It doesn't do anyone any good, least of all Democrats, to act like Trump voters somehow don't know what they're voting for.
nikkas acting like it’s 2016 where people got a pass for ignoring decades of Trump being a racist idiot. It was 2024 they know exactly what the fukk they was voting for and exactly what they fukk they was gonna get. They just thought they weren’t gonna be in the crossfire
 

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It really seems like a lot of people are in denial about how many voters are knowingly voting for White/Christian nationalism. It's not something that voters overlooked, it's Trump's main appeal. It doesn't do anyone any good, least of all Democrats, to act like Trump voters somehow don't know what they're voting for.
and it doesn't do the Democrats any good to call every trump voter a white christian nationalist :unimpressed:

is that a large part of his base? most of his base? yes.

are there millions of trump '24 voters who think he's a piece of shyt, but voted for his promises to make gas and expenses cheaper? also yes. and that's who Dems can and will convert back, in 2028

Nobody got "tricked" into voting for Trump, they knew exactly what they were voting for. Nor is the economy the main reason he won.
yes it is :yeshrug:

these elections get decided by a couple million people, not Trump's base. and those people had no faith in kamala on the economy; nor were they obligated to. it is what it is

Trump got 77 million votes. i don't give a fukk about calling 70 million "bad people"; i care about swinging 7 million or so back the other way
 
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