What do progressive have to do with this conversation? You a weird guy lolif only progressives could stop being so fukkin weird, they might be able to get the votes necessary to improve our material conditions
2026 Midterm Elections Thread
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Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
Biden’s administration was better than the alternative which is the point. On one end you argue swing voters can call balls and strikes fairly, they’re smart enough to know which candidate would be better for the economy but at the same time they weren’t smart enough to know Trump was being a con man.
How many times are you going to contradict yourself?
the cac mamba
Veteran
just keep in mind that when the people answering these polls hear "generic democrat", they're thinking Shapiro and Fetterman. not Mamdani and Jayapal
it's not the point this is NOT 1994. It's time for you and the democrat party establishment to stop governing based on this mentality. The parties have been swinging back and forth since then for a reason.
Neither candidate was good for the ecomomy, all they had from a data perspective as low information voters was trump 1s ecomomy being better than bidens. Now if Biden actually was a effective communicator and not a corpse maybe he could have explained why prices was higher every month of his term instead of sending his surrogates out to insult voters with inflation stats every few months
Why wasn't biden smart enough to govern the country to the point a conman could not win ?
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just keep in mind that when the people answering these polls hear "generic democrat", they're thinking Shapiro and Fetterman. not Mamdani and Jayapal
Confused what u babbling to me right now. Me and @Outlaw having a grown man convo. Keep it pushing republican cac scrap
the cac mamba
Veteran
yes, i've heard the autistic have these kinds of severe shutdowns
not sure why "this is how power will actually swing back to the Dems, in real life", would be confusing
but carry on
Nobody got "tricked" into voting for Trump, they knew exactly what they were voting for. Nor is the economy the main reason he won.
It really seems like a lot of people are in denial about how many voters are knowingly voting for White/Christian nationalism. It's not something that voters overlooked, it's Trump's main appeal. It doesn't do anyone any good, least of all Democrats, to act like Trump voters somehow don't know what they're voting for.
Is is the main reason he won. You confusing maga republicans with independent voters. Two totally different topics. Maga republicans are christian nationalist. The swing voters are regular voters who vote based on whose offering the better vision
Yes maga are white Christian nationalist which is why his floor is 35% we've known that for a decade now
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nikkas acting like it’s 2016 where people got a pass for ignoring decades of Trump being a racist idiot. It was 2024 they know exactly what the fukk they was voting for and exactly what they fukk they was gonna get. They just thought they weren’t gonna be in the crossfire
the cac mamba
Veteran
and it doesn't do the Democrats any good to call every trump voter a white christian nationalist
is that a large part of his base? most of his base? yes.
are there millions of trump '24 voters who think he's a piece of shyt, but voted for his promises to make gas and expenses cheaper? also yes. and that's who Dems can and will convert back, in 2028
yes it is
these elections get decided by a couple million people, not Trump's base. and those people had no faith in kamala on the economy; nor were they obligated to. it is what it is
Trump got 77 million votes. i don't give a fukk about calling 70 million "bad people"; i care about swinging 7 million or so back the other way
eastside313
Superstar
lol at trump was offering a better vision. You go out of your way to act like racism wasn’t at the top of the ticket.
He was the only one offering a vision, leading with shyt like no tax on tips and no tax on soxial security so by default to them he won. Take that up with the democrats running on nothing not me
the cac mamba
Veteran
this is embarrassing. of course kamala faced racism/sexism, but the cost of living and inflation was issue #1, period. biden/harris were not "owed" the 2024 election after 4 years of power
and yeah: like it or not, trump had a track record of being president pre-covid, and kamala's record was being VP post-covid. and a good 80% of voters were better off pre-covid, so do the math. her "record" in power, sucked
if you think racism was at the top of the ticket, you sure should have spoke up in august 2024, when "we couldn't skip over kamala". i mean, you knew she was gonna lose....right? so we shoulda thrown Newsom in
the cac mamba
Veteran
if Trump wasn't a one term loser in 2020, and had to preside over that post-covid inflation, President Newsom is in the White House today. after crushing Cruz/Rubio in 2024He was the only one offering a vision, leading with shyt like no tax on tips and no tax on soxial security so by default to them he won. Take that up with the democrats running on nothing not me
there's only one lesson to take from the past 5 years; don't nominate Kamala in 2028
if Biden's VP had been some mediocre white man from Wisconsin named Kameron Harris, and Trump kicked his ass in 2024; NO ONE would be calling for him to be the '28 nominee
