2026 Midterm Elections Thread

[wire28]

If black people already know who's responsible for what, why does Trump's vote share among the black population keep going up with each election?

He won the popular vote it went up amongst everybody. Black people still voted against him in the greatest numbers. The logic of give the crazy man with the power the gun isn’t flying. Again I’m not even arguing against getting rid of it, I’m saying why in the hell would you specifically want it gone with proudly open white supremacists in charge. The only people immediately suffering are the people that voted against this in the first place. What lesson are you teaching the people that voted against it??

 

[Trips]

He won the popular vote it went up amongst everybody. Black people still voted against him in the greatest numbers. The logic of give the crazy man with the power the gun isn’t flying. Again I’m not even arguing against getting rid of it, I’m saying why in the hell would you specifically want it gone with proudly open white supremacists in charge. The only people immediately suffering are the people that voted against this in the first place. What lesson are you teaching the people that voted against it??

I think the assumed logic in that removing the filibuster and forcing the parties to stand by votes and policies they are pushing through. It would be the thing that finally fires up the apathetic sit out every election people. But, I think that argument loses it's weight in that look at Texas for example. It's noted that a large portion of that state doesn't come out to vote. I think I read something like just over 40% of the voting eligible electorate vote in the state. Yet it's clear with things like their grid failure and other issues. Showcasing the ineffectiveness of Republican rule. Nothing has moved the people to vote them out of power.

Too many people are just effectively comfortable, and I don't know what is the pain point that will finally break them. They look at it as their life has consistently been the same regardless of who is in power. And I'm not sure something like ending the filibuster and allowing minority rule to put their will on the people would bring out a more politically engaged electorate.

 

[wire28]

I think the assumed logic in that removing the filibuster and forcing the parties to stand by votes and policies they are pushing through. It would be the thing that finally fires up the apathetic sit out every election people. But, I think that argument loses it's weight in that look at Texas for example. It's noted that a large portion of that state doesn't come out to vote. I think I read something like just over 40% of the voting eligible electorate vote in the state. Yet it's clear with things like their grid failure and other issues. Showcasing the ineffectiveness of Republican rule. Nothing has moved the people to vote them out of power.

Too many people are just effectively comfortable, and I don't know what is the pain point that will finally break them. They look at it as their life has consistently been the same regardless of who is in power. And I'm not sure something like ending the filibuster and allowing minority rule to put their will on the people would bring out a more politically engaged electorate.

I understand the logic of getting rid of it. Specifically choosing to get rid of it under Trump 2.0 I don’t when he and his white nationalists are immediately coming for the people who have no lessons to learn since they didn’t vote for it

 

[Loose]

All of that can be undone once a democrat gets back in office since most of what he’s doing is through executive order.

False it's damn near impossible to put back everything he removed, it may take decades especially without super majority rule.

 

[88m3]

golden fleet

 

[Outlaw]

False it's damn near impossible to put back everything he removed, it may take decades especially without super majority rule.

Speaking theoretically, everything Trump has done through executive order can be reversed with executive order by the next President. It’s an objectively true statement.

With that said, he’s doing all of this damage and you want to give him even more power to codify the orders into law which would be even more difficult to reverse

It makes zero logical sense.

 

[wire28]

Speaking theoretically, everything Trump has done through executive order can be reversed with executive order by the next President. It’s an objectively true statement.

With that said, he’s doing all of this damage and you want to give him even more power to codify the orders into law which would be even more difficult to reverse

It makes zero logical sense.

It’s damn near impossible to fix what he’s destroyed remove the filibuster and give him and his cult more power


Algo got this nikka washed

We started the year with “Donald Trump has vindicated Arabic voters” and ending it with “I hope the white nationalist cult in power ends the filibuster”. What a year from the Allstars

 

[MAKAVELI25]

He won the popular vote it went up amongst everybody. Black people still voted against him in the greatest numbers. The logic of give the crazy man with the power the gun isn’t flying. Again I’m not even arguing against getting rid of it, I’m saying why in the hell would you specifically want it gone with proudly open white supremacists in charge. The only people immediately suffering are the people that voted against this in the first place. What lesson are you teaching the people that voted against it??

By your logic, we should never get rid of the filibuster ever. Even if we get rid of it while Dems are in charge, there is always the chance that another Trump-like figure should be elected.

 

[wire28]

By your logic, we should never get rid of the filibuster ever. Even if we get rid of it while Dems are in charge, there is always the chance that another Trump-like figure should be elected.

By my logic I’d prefer not to get rid of it specifically during Trump 2.0 which is literally the worst administration in this country’s history and we are just one year in. I’m just having trouble seeing the logic of giving the most openly racist and harmful administration of all time unfettered power.

Additionally by my logic, if it happens under a dem they atleast have the chance through policy and structure to prevent another trump like figure from happening. While at the same time Trump has the opportunity to prevent a functioning democracy from ever happening again.

Advocating giving Trump and his cult more power is gonna be a hard no for me my guy

 

[Loose]

Speaking theoretically, everything Trump has done through executive order can be reversed with executive order by the next President. It’s an objectively true statement.

With that said, he’s doing all of this damage and you want to give him even more power to codify the orders into law which would be even more difficult to reverse

It makes zero logical sense.

So by your logic the next dem administration should sit with a already broken system because the big bad trump administration could do worse ? Lmao

 

[acri1]

Honestly, let them do it. The filibuster has protected Americans for years from having to see just how extreme today’s Republican Party really is. If it goes away and they’re able to pass their full agenda, the mask comes off. People won’t be able to keep pretending the party is “moderate” or reasonable.

For a long time, the filibuster has done two main things:

1.) It’s acted as a brake on the most extreme GOP policies — not because those policies are popular, but because they often wouldn’t survive public scrutiny if they actually became law.

2.) It’s given cover to politicians in both parties. They get to say they support working people while quietly hiding behind procedure to avoid taking tough votes they don’t actually want to be on the record for.

If Republicans really believe their agenda reflects what Americans want, then they shouldn’t need procedural guardrails to soften the impact. Governing should mean owning the consequences.

And honestly, I don’t get why the U.S. treats the filibuster like some sacred institution. Correct me if I'm wrong, but our peer democracies — the UK, Germany, France — function just fine without anything like it. They pass legislation by majority rule and deal with the political fallout like grown-ups. What makes us so special that we supposedly can’t?

At some point, democracy means accountability. Getting rid of the filibuster would force that — for better or worse — and at least voters would finally see clearly who’s responsible for what.

The problem here is that there's a huge swath of the electorate that's perfectly okay with being shyt on as long as they feel minority groups they hate (gays, blacks, hispanic immigrants, trans, etc.) are being shyt on more.

Probably 40-50% of the electorate is going to vote Republican no matter what, which is enough for them to win most of the time.

 

[MAKAVELI25]

The problem here is that there's a huge swath of the electorate that's perfectly okay with being shyt on as long as they feel minority groups they hate (gays, blacks, hispanic immigrants, trans, etc.) are being shyt on more.

Probably 40-50% of the electorate is going to vote Republican no matter what, which is enough for them to win most of the time.

I don't think the electorate really understands how extreme a lot of the most influential figures in the Conservative movement are. These people want to end no fault divorce, reverse Griswold V Connecticut (protecting a married couple's right to use contraception in the privacy of their own home), ban porn completely, etc. This is not an agenda that is palatable to the American public.

The difference between the right and the left is that we don't actually have any lunatics in public office (at least not that I can think of). If you think Bernie and AOC are extreme, you probably haven't looked at the number of Americans that actually agree with their policy proposals. Our lunatics posts online and on social media. Mike Lee, US Senator from Utah, is pushing a bill to ban porn this year.

If you don't think the judiciary would save us then (if the filibuster is eliminated), there is no reason to think it will save us now. There are still constitutional amendments in place that protect the rights of minorities even if laws are passed to contradict those rights. The Republicans in the Senate could eliminate the filibuster today if they wanted, and there's not a thing any of us could do about it.

Again, it needs to be reinforced over and over again that the filibuster is a senate fiction. They don't have to abide by any of the rules of the Parliamentarian, the parliamentarian works for them. We are not the ones being protected by the filibuster, politicians are the ones who love the filibuster (both Repubs and Dems) because it saves them from having to take unpopular votes. So, for instances, if you don't actually want the minimum wage needs to be raised but you're a Democrat, you can vote for the wage increase (while still maintaining your populist bona fides) knowing it will never actually pass.

I understand the fears of eliminating the filibuster during Trump's Presidency, those fears are reasonable, but if you support ending the filibuster, the threat of an extremist Republican administration will always be around. The same reason why one might support not doing it now would support never doing it at all.

 

[Outlaw]

I don't think the electorate really understands how extreme a lot of the most influential figures in the Conservative movement are. These people want to end no fault divorce, reverse Griswold V Connecticut (protecting a married couple's right to use contraception in the privacy of their own home), ban porn completely, etc. This is not an agenda that is palatable to the American public.

The difference between the right and the left is that we don't actually have any lunatics in public office (at least not that I can think of). If you think Bernie and AOC are extreme, you probably haven't looked at the number of Americans that actually agree with their policy proposals. Our lunatics posts online and on social media. Mike Lee, US Senator from Utah, is pushing a bill to ban porn this year.

If you don't think the judiciary would save us then (if the filibuster is eliminated), there is no reason to think it will save us now. There are still constitutional amendments in place that protect the rights of minorities even if laws are passed to contradict those rights. The Republicans in the Senate could eliminate the filibuster today if they wanted, and there's not a thing any of us could do about it.

Again, it needs to be reinforced over and over again that the filibuster is a senate fiction. They don't have to abide by any of the rules of the Parliamentarian, the parliamentarian works for them. We are not the ones being protected by the filibuster, politicians are the ones who love the filibuster (both Repubs and Dems) because it saves them from having to take unpopular votes. So, for instances, if you don't actually want the minimum wage needs to be raised but you're a Democrat, you can vote for the wage increase (while still maintaining your populist bona fides) knowing it will never actually pass.

I understand the fears of eliminating the filibuster during Trump's Presidency, those fears are reasonable, but if you support ending the filibuster, the threat of an extremist Republican administration will always be around. The same reason why one might support not doing it now would support never doing it at all.

40-50% of the American population will not appreciate this thought loop and will continue to vote Republican regardless.

You have to look outside of your perspective

Why do rednecks in West Virginia and Kentucky vote against having access to hospitals in their shythole rural towns?

If you remove the filibuster you force the hand of country club republicans who just want to pay lipservice like MAGA but only really care about tax cuts to actually act and vote like their lowest common denominator (which are incel Nazis and Christian nationalists) to retain power.

It’ll be a race to the bottom not to the top

 

[MAKAVELI25]

40-50% of the American population will not appreciate this thought loop and will continue to vote Republican regardless.

You have to look outside of your perspective

Why do rednecks in West Virginia and Kentucky vote against having access to hospitals in their shythole rural towns?

If you remove the filibuster you force the hand of country club republicans who just want to pay lipservice like MAGA but only really care about tax cuts to actually act and vote like their lowest common denominator (which are incel Nazis and Christian nationalists) to retain power.

It’ll be a race to the bottom not to the top

Do you support removing the filibuster at any point in the future?

 

[Outlaw]

Do you support removing the filibuster at any point in the future?

Yes if the Republicans become a serious party that competes with Democrats for the vote all of Americans and not just the white males