25-year old pregnant mother of five gunned down while driving in Chicago

[newarkhiphop]

Poor children. They were victims long before this incident.

And that is the real tragedy of both these stories but if you notice that the same people accusing others of being "insensitive" about the death of the victims have said almost nothing about the children in these situations, all very young in both cases no child older than 9, so they can not even begin to comprehend whats happening and the psychological effect of losing a parent at that age is unspeakable. No they want to sit here and make excuses for two adults who out of there own free will decided to go and be out in the street at unreasonable times at night. You can tell who has kid's (or even compassion for them) and who doesn't

I would like to hear from posters with children and if they see nothing wrong with the actions of the adults in both these tragic stories

 

[Serious]

And that is the real tragedy of both these stories but if you notice that the same people accusing others of being "insensitive" about the death of the victims have said almost nothing about the children in these situations, all very young in both cases no child older than 9, so they can not even begin to comprehend whats happening and the psychological effect of losing a parent at that age is unspeakable. No they want to sit here and make excuses for two adults who out of there own free will decided to go and be out in the street at unreasonable times at night. You can tell who has kid's (or even compassion for them) and who doesn't

I would like to hear from posters with children and if they see nothing wrong with the actions of the adults in both these tragic stories

 

[Blackking]

Smh, at some of these fakkit ass posters..... not being able to see this for what it is.

 

[newarkhiphop]

Smh, at some of these fakkit ass posters..... not being able to see this for what it is.

Well what I really want to say about her may get me banned so I will let yall cook

speak your minds brehs

 

[Blackking]

speak your minds brehs

Well he wants to diss black women. I already said what I think... that the way to curve it isn't by being sensitive or promoting bs laws that will only add to the prison slavery industrial complex.... more black men are gonna end up in prison cuz of liberals.

Another thing....these arent the worst stories.... in Chicago its 13% homicide rate for kids under 18 per 100k. In Detroit is 15%' so if it not the moms getting popped its the kids. That shyts crazy. There has been at least 15kids under age 14 body burned shot and found in abandoned homes in Detroit last few years.

Justice system helps keep that going , culture of violence also increases in economically depressed areas. GUN Control debates aren't solutions to urban violence... thats to help cac not get popes in mass. solutions are gonna sound crazy because people don't understand that we only came to these cities for manufacturing that no longer exists.

 

[Type Username Here]

And that is the real tragedy of both these stories but if you notice that the same people accusing others of being "insensitive" about the death of the victims have said almost nothing about the children in these situations, all very young in both cases no child older than 9, so they can not even begin to comprehend whats happening and the psychological effect of losing a parent at that age is unspeakable. No they want to sit here and make excuses for two adults who out of there own free will decided to go and be out in the street at unreasonable times at night. You can tell who has kid's (or even compassion for them) and who doesn't

I would like to hear from posters with children and if they see nothing wrong with the actions of the adults in both these tragic stories

Ultimately though, anyone that knows me, knows that I preach a top-down solution. A lot of these problems arise from racial, socio-economic and historic sources, and to a lesser degree, cultural. The question is, can minority communities, especially Black and Indigenous communities, afford to wait one more second for the same system of white supremacy and capitalism that has shattered their families and structure to all of a sudden realize the errors of their ways? I'm all for fighting to end the drug war, for socialism, for reparations to descendant of slaves, for labor rights, for having a true blind justice system, and many other things. But those are uphill battles and celebrating bread crumbs won't get any of us there any quicker. It may take decades. Can some of these communities afford to wait decades?

The whole situation is fukked. As a relatively new father though, I get caught up in the emotional aspect of child safety and well-being, and at times manifest that by judging the parent(s). I just can't imagine forgetting my child in a vehicle or letting a 9 year old watch my 18 month old for any extended period of time and in turn, I may be approaching the situation more from an emotional aspect than a logical one.

 

[newarkhiphop]

Ultimately though, anyone that knows me, knows that I preach a top-down solution. A lot of these problems arise from racial, socio-economic and historic sources, and to a lesser degree, cultural. The question is, can minority communities, especially Black and Indigenous communities, afford to wait one more second for the same system of white supremacy and capitalism that has shattered their families and structure to all of a sudden realize the errors of their ways? I'm all for fighting to end the drug war, for socialism, for reparations to descendant of slaves, for labor rights, for having a true blind justice system, and many other things. But those are uphill battles and celebrating bread crumbs won't get any of us there any quicker. It may take decades. Can some of these communities afford to wait decades?

The whole situation is fukked. As a relatively new father though, I get caught up in the emotional aspect of child safety and well-being, and at times manifest that by judging the parent(s). I just can't imagine forgetting my child in a vehicle or letting a 9 year old watch my 18 month old for any extended period of time and in turn, I may be approaching the situation more from an emotional aspect than a logical one.

powerful post

Don't let these cats fool you there is absolutely nothing wrong with logic

 

[wire28]

You're from Detroit right??

have you ever met a hood nikkas mother? some are nice, some are rats..... some perpetuate the mentality. Based on the facts of the situation, we can assume what type this lil chick was. Blaming the nikka who fled the scene is the obvious thing. I thought it was obvious that he was the target. It should also be obvious that the chick and her situation is representative of a culture that will allow for incidents like this to happen all the time. Instead of focusing on that, we care that she was a young chick that got popped.

The only issue with that is that............. being extra sensitive doesn't produce suggestions. and if you are from Detroit, i can invite you to events to prove my points.......... these other nikkas just type undercover racist liberal shyt online and talk shyt by calling people "militants"

The point isn't being extra sensitive. It's being able to discern the real issue from other facts of the situation we may not like.

Unless she was out there on her Bonnie and Clyde shyt, I haven't read anything about her that warrants the response in here.

I've had family gunned down and then demonized in court. So it throws me that it's going on here.

Id argue the chick probably not having a strong father figure and stable family structure for her children (something I'm sure most of you assumed anyway) is more directly correlated for breeding "these situations" than her dropping the kids off with their grandparents.

 

[Blackking]

The point isn't being extra sensitive. It's being able to discern the real issue from other facts of the situation we may not like.

Unless she was out there on her Bonnie and Clyde shyt, I haven't read anything about her that warrants the response in here.

I've had family gunned down and then demonized in court. So it throws me that it's going on here.

Id argue the chick probably not having a strong father figure and stable family structure for her children (something I'm sure most of you assumed anyway) is more directly correlated for breeding "these situations" than her dropping the kids off with their grandparents.

But the last part of what you wrote is the point though. And ive had a brother murked... at this point its a community issue, so no point getting hoemotional over everyone popped...

We have to work at a social level to or prevent it... sure we have to try to change the justice, education systems in all that..... but the fact that in chi and Detroit its easier to get a burner than a degree....and hood moms live and do what they have to do to make it.... means we have a mental war to fight.

 

[Type Username Here]

Id argue the chick probably not having a strong father figure and stable family structure for her children (something I'm sure most of you assumed anyway) is more directly correlated for breeding "these situations" than her dropping the kids off with their grandparents.

You're arguing that parental decisions and behavior play no part whatsoever by telling us that parental decisions and behavior played a part?

I don't understand.

 

[wire28]

But the last part of what you wrote is the point though. And ive had a brother murked... at this point its a community issue, so no point getting hoemotional over everyone popped...

We have to work at a social level to or prevent it... sure we have to try to change the justice, education systems in all that..... but the fact that in chi and Detroit its easier to get a burner than a degree....and hood moms live and do what they have to do to make it.... means we have a mental war to fight.

and i think we agree, for the most part

i'll get "hoemotional" if its people getting popped that aint out there spreading violence

and i guess this is the minority opinion going by this thread, but i take issue with what formed the mentality of the killer. its a combination of things that form this kind of person. the decisions of the mother at that period of her life are, at most, in the middle of the totem pole

i'd hope the bright brothers of the coli would be wiser than to reach for the low hanging fruit of her personal statistics and take the winding road to end at the conclusion of "worthless"

 

[tmonster]

and i think we agree, for the most part

i'll get "hoemotional" if its people getting popped that aint out there spreading violence

and i guess this is the minority opinion going by this thread, but i take issue with what formed the mentality of the killer. its a combination of things that form this kind of person. the decisions of the mother at that period of her life are, at most, in the middle of the totem pole

i'd hope the bright brothers of the coli would be wiser than to reach for the low hanging fruit of her personal statistics and take the winding road to end at the conclusion of "worthless"

or referring to her as a "rat"

 

[wire28]

You're arguing that parental decisions and behavior play no part whatsoever by telling us that parental decisions and behavior played a part?

I don't understand.

i argued that the lack of something is more directly correlated.

unless you figure its also her fault for not having strong men in her childrens lives

 

[Blackking]

Lol, ok.

 

[Blackking]

We are gonna pretend to never have been around hood nikkas and dope houses now...even if not drug related...... I swear you can almost predict a nikka that has it coming... so if a chick pops out maddd kids at a young age and then turns around and chills w a Marked man over being w her kids at 3 am..... then we need to step back and look at Us.