3/1/25 PBC on PRIME PPV: Gervonta Tank Davis vs Lamont Roach (WBA Lightweight Title)

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That’s cool and all but we are in the now and going off what actually happened Canelo lost but he lost to a guy who is the man now.

Roach would have to unify 135 to be in the same sentence.
Yes Canelo lost to "the man" NOW, but at the time it was a cherry pick. If he was always "the man" he wouldn't have been the underdog even while being in a heavier weight class.

He also wouldn't have almost drawer with Nelo, although handing him a thorough ass whipping.

Bivol hadn't unified Jack shyt when he whipped Canelo. So yes it's similar.
 

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Yes Canelo lost to "the man" NOW, but at the time it was a cherry pick. If he was always "the man" he wouldn't have been the underdog even while being in a heavier weight class.

He also wouldn't have almost drawer with Nelo, although handing him a thorough ass whipping.

Bivol hadn't unified Jack shyt when he whipped Canelo. So yes it's similar.

Whatever makes you feel better brother 🤝🏾

I’m sure Roach will walk through Shakur Keshawn and unify :mjlol:
 

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That’s cool and all but we are in the now and going off what actually happened Canelo lost but he lost to a guy who is the man now.

Roach would have to unify 135 to be in the same sentence.


The same fans calling canelo vs bivol a cherry pick will be the same ones crying like some ho's when fighters stop caring about the fans:mjlol: .....a fighter moving up to the fight a legit title holder could never be called a cherry pick. Period. I don't care what type of narrative you gotta create in your head. Fans like this are the reason so many fighters are chasing the bag now :hhh:
 

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The same fans calling canelo vs bivol a cherry pick will be the same ones crying like some ho's when fighters stop caring about the fans:mjlol: .....a fighter moving up to the fight a legit title holder could never be called a cherry pick. Period. I don't care what type of narrative you gotta create in your head. Fans like this are the reason so many fighters are chasing the bag now :hhh:

Wrong. Don’t put sucker shyt on the fans. The fans are constantly being manipulated in ALL sports. Cherry pick is relative to a fighter’s intentions BEFORE the fact. The fact that everyone is saying Roach is better than we thought is bullshyt. Most people had him getting knocked tf out. Can’t come after the fact and say Tank wasn’t cherry picking because most people thought he didn’t deserve a win on top of the fact that he didn’t get one anyway. Smh
 

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Is it money issues or ego?

Rumors are because Ford was working with Floyd. Other rumors say Calvin wasn’t getting paid what he was owed. I know that sounds crazy but alot of trainers say this. B Hop and Bouie Fisher split because of this. Derrick James sued Errol Spence most notably.
 

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Rumors are because Ford was working with Floyd. Other rumors say Calvin wasn’t getting paid what he was owed. I know that sounds crazy but alot of trainers say this. B Hop and Bouie Fisher split because of this. Derrick James sued Errol Spence most notably.
Cant be because of Floyd, i know Tank dont hate Floyd like that. Must be the money
 

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Cant be because of Floyd, i know Tank dont hate Floyd like that. Must be the money

Ehhhh….they have a really antagonistic history, more so than Broner even because Tank was under Floyd. If you believe what they are doing is for show then nah he don’t hate him like that but if their back and forth is real? Yeah he hate Floyd fa sho.
 

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Wrong. Don’t put sucker shyt on the fans. The fans are constantly being manipulated in ALL sports. Cherry pick is relative to a fighter’s intentions BEFORE the fact. The fact that everyone is saying Roach is better than we thought is bullshyt. Most people had him getting knocked tf out. Can’t come after the fact and say Tank wasn’t cherry picking because most people thought he didn’t deserve a win on top of the fact that he didn’t get one anyway. Smh

Tank vs roach is completely different than canelo vs bivol. Roach was the one moving up to fight a champion. Same as canelo. Any hardcore boxing fan knew that bivol vs canelo fight was gonna be close as hell. Anybody who thought that was gonna be an easy night for canelo don't know shyt about boxing.

And yes. A lot of the "sucker shyt" going on today is 100% because of the fans. Same type of fans who were calling bud vs madrimov a cherry pick. It's why bud didn't pay any attention to the talk of him ducking boots. He seen through the years how the casuals ran with the story of him being scared of Spence. Corny shyt like that is why a lot of fighters chase the payday. And I don't blame em. If social media exposed one thing, it's that boxing fans might be the woat of all the sports. Most of these fans are still calling Haney a bytch for suing ryan :mjlol:
 

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Canelo had a whole lawsuit against him because he was cherry picking. Paulie Malinagi, Roy Jones, Antonio Tarver all called him out for cherry picking against Bivol, but somehow its casual fans making accusations.

Canelo does have a standard for himself he had to hold up to, because he is Canelo. Eddie Hearn and Bivol both said that Bivol last fight was bad and that was why he was chose.

Yes there are levels to cherry picking. Canelo is more accomplished and has created a higher standard to love to than Tank, but he's still cherry picking. Gah dang.
 
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Tank vs roach is completely different than canelo vs bivol. Roach was the one moving up to fight a champion. Same as canelo. Any hardcore boxing fan knew that bivol vs canelo fight was gonna be close as hell. Anybody who thought that was gonna be an easy night for canelo don't know shyt about boxing.

And yes. A lot of the "sucker shyt" going on today is 100% because of the fans. Same type of fans who were calling bud vs madrimov a cherry pick. It's why bud didn't pay any attention to the talk of him ducking boots. He seen through the years how the casuals ran with the story of him being scared of Spence. Corny shyt like that is why a lot of fighters chase the payday. And I don't blame em. If social media exposed one thing, it's that boxing fans might be the woat of all the sports. Most of these fans are still calling Haney a bytch for suing ryan :mjlol:

The term cherry picking is wild subjective. My definition is when someone feels that a reward is much greater than the risk. The question isn’t whether or not we knew the fight would be close but what were Canelo’s chances of winning? I believe Oscar did the same with Sturm. You have to add the fact of the odds of Bivol winning by decision. The cards went Oscar’s way but most thought Sturm won. It didn’t go Canelo’s way, that doesn’t mean him or his team didn’t think it would especially him getting the benefit of the doubt in a close fight.

Me personally I am not calling it that but in many minds a cherry picking can simply mean that there are fights that can be made with bigger names and tougher opponents. Roach for sure was a cherry pick because Tank always saying such and such ain’t done shyt yet yielding to Roach who has accomplished a lot less.
 
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