Neither one of you clearly don't pay attention to NBA discord around the world, every season the perception has been that if he doesn't win MVP he's been “robbed”. The year Embiid won, the notion was that he was robbed, and people still push that narrative, and if SGA by miracle (since it's not a given he'll win MVP) wins this year, it'll be the same talk among NBA discussion that he was “robbed due to voter fatigue” and that narrative has already begun by people saying the only thing SGA has over Jokic is a better team record and PPG.
Bringing up Kareem, Wilt, Russell, Jordan, and Bron does matter because these players are considered among the greatest of all time and their accolades (MVPs, championships, statistical records, etc) define their ranking. There's a reason why players from numerous decades rank among each other and not by era. Jokic having all these MVPs would mislead many to make the assertion that he's among the top 3-5 of all-time, despite having only 1 championship which is ridiculous.
Now we trying to act like MVPs don't play a role in all-time rankings? Jokic may end his career as a one-time champion, yet will be ranked higher than previous players who've accomplished more in their careers, he should not exceed LeBron, Jordan, Russell, Wilt, and Kareem in MVPs with nowhere near the accolades as them. Now y'all tryna water down the MVP by saying “who cares if he passes them in MVP trophies, let him win em all, it doesn't matter”. It does matter when people decades from now will revisit and revisionist tales about who's the greatest of all time starts taking over.
There's already been people seriously making clams that Jokic is the second best player of all-time and some have even tried to argue he's better than Jordan, at least offensively. Y'all don't pay attention to NBA discussion online the way I do.
