41 shot overnight in NYC with at least 4 dead in citywide explosion of gun violence

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I will say its a combination of unemployment, regular street beef, 1500 inmates rekeased from nyc jails becuase of rona, and the courts system being shutdown

Remember cops rarely stop violence. They are secretaries who arrive after and take notes and shyt. So lets not say more cops are needed.

the og’s in the hood need to handle thier youngins And cut the bs. Especially with kids around.
Most of these “ogs” are fukking bozos reliving their yesteryear through the young folks. Or trying to dress like them and act like. On top of that some of them doing the shooting are old enough to be ogs.
 

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Most of these “ogs” are fukking bozos reliving their yesteryear through the young folks. Or trying to dress like them and act like. On top of that some of them doing the shooting are old enough to be ogs.

Thank You. You literally have 40-50 years olds dressing, thinking and acting like these knuckleheads. We live in a culture where dudes just have a problem aging gracefully and play the wise old man in the background. They still want to be in the streets and be adversaries to the young guys to show them "they still got it" instead of being advisors and pillars of the community they destroy it like these younger dudes do.
 

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Black communities are always told to stop killing each other and hold each other accountable. The police never say “we will make the effort to protect your communities better.” Why does a person feel comfortable pulling up in broad daylight and shooting a man in his head on a busy street in front of his daughter? Because there is no police presence or effort to prevent it. Police are reactionary by policy and by training.

If they aren’t doing anything to prevent murders like these, give the money to the community.
 

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Your last point is why the cac/c00n tactic of mentioning black on black crime is a nonsensical rhetorical deflection.

They are assuming that every black person is connected to crime in one way or the other and therefore has the means to stop it.

There is nothing the average black citizen can do about black on black crime tbh
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Black communities are always told to stop killing each other and hold each other accountable. The police never say “we will make the effort to protect your communities better.” Why does a person feel comfortable pulling up in broad daylight and shooting a man in his head on a busy street in front of his daughter? Because there is no police presence or effort to prevent it. Police are reactionary by policy and by training.

If they aren’t doing anything to prevent murders like these, give the money to the community.
Cops don't stop crime, they only respond to crime.

It will be up to BLACK PEOPLE to stop crime in their communities, NOT POLICE.

Black folk need to take responsibility for the violence in the community and do something about it. More police isn't the answer.
 

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Cops don't stop crime, they only respond to crime.

It will be up to BLACK PEOPLE to stop crime in their communities, NOT POLICE.

Black folk need to take responsibility for the violence in the community and do something about it. More police isn't the answer.
More police isnt the answer, you’re right. Better directed and better dispersed police is.

What do you want the average black person to do when faced against a younger, mentally unstable, trigger happy black person?

Are we supposed to go out and kill criminals? We go to prison for that. Putting the onus on black folks to “police themselves” is ridiculous.
 

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So what I been hearing is, they let a bunch of mothafukkas back onto the streets a couple of weeks back and trying to blame bail reform...

Half the dudes they let back out did not meet the bail reform criteria...

I'm tellin yall, NYPD on some fukk shyt...

FYI for those that don't know, bail reform went into effect in JANUARY...There was no murder rate spike January-May...All this shyt directly correlates to starting with the June protests to defund the NYPD...
 

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More police isnt the answer, you’re right. Better directed and better dispersed police is.

What do you want the average black person to do when faced against a younger, mentally unstable, trigger happy black person?

Are we supposed to go out and kill criminals? We go to prison for that. Putting the onus on black folks to “police themselves” is ridiculous.

The trigger happy black person is a symptom of the underlying cause of lack of self-accountability within his or her own community and consistent culture shift in terms of values that the community has chosen to be comfortable with which is violence, instant gratification, false sense of what masculinity is and materialism. All these things are American but as a community at the bottom of the totem pole you cannot embrace these values because the results are devastating and we are seeing this.

The thing that gives e hope is that culture is fluid and things can change in terms of culture within a short time 10-20 years. I was watching a document on Reconstruction post Civil War on PBS somehow popped out on my algorithm. Decided to give it watch. You had literal former enslaved people IN THE LATE 19TH CENTURY literally getting educated trying to keep links and restore links with families and running for office in the DEEP SOUTH (South Carolina, Mississippi). It is not by accident that a lot of the civil rights fight in the 1960s was brought toward desegregation of schools whether it be Brown v. Board or Meredith v. University of Mississippi. The blackest thing you could do was to get an education and uplift your own through that medium.

Fast forward 2020, ppl are even making excuse for single parent households, shootings where Black children are victims and all the bad things that comes from it.
 
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The thing that kills me about that is ,it happened in New York. New York gang members have adopted the identity of West Coast gangs. The irony is, back in the day West Coast gangsters would give a rival a pass if he was with his family. With his mama, he gets a pass. With his kids, he gets a pass. Saw an interview with Mob James who said if a dude had a bible, he would give him a pass. While far from perfect, it had some kind of moral code. Something. Nowadays, there is no code. It's just reckless out here.
Nah. This can’t be true on a large scale cause I personally know of some incidents where cat shot the father and the son.
 

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Cops don't stop crime, they only respond to crime.

It will be up to BLACK PEOPLE to stop crime in their communities, NOT POLICE.

Black folk need to take responsibility for the violence in the community and do something about it. More police isn't the answer.
So. Since regular non violent citizens are supposed to police their own neighborhoods. How do u suggest that happen? Do u have a plan? Do u plan on getting involved with gang violence? Or are u just making blanket statement and pointing the finger?
 

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The trigger happy black person is a symptom of the underlying cause of lack of self-accountability within his or her own community and consistent culture shift in terms of values that the community has chosen to be comfortable with which is violence, instant gratification, false sense of what masculinity is and materialism. All these things are American but as a community at the bottom of the totem pole you cannot embrace these values because the results are devastating and we are seeing this.

The thing that gives e hope is that culture is fluid and things can change in terms of culture within a short time 10-20 years. I was watching a document on Reconstruction post Civil War on PBS somehow popped out on my algorithm. Decided to give it watch. You had literal former enslaved people IN THE LATE 19TH CENTURY literally getting educated trying to keep links and restore links with families and running for office in the DEEP SOUTH (South Carolina, Mississippi). It is not by accident that a lot of the civil rights fight in the 1960s was brought toward desegregation of schools whether it be Brown v. Board or Meredith v. University of Mississippi. The blackest thing you could do was to get an education and uplift your own through that medium.

Fast forward 2020, ppl are even making excuse for single parent households, shootings where Black children are victims and all the bad things that comes from it.
Everytime black people try to mobilize and get shyt together. The government literally CREATES LAWS to stop the shyt. We’ve seen it happen since the time ur talking about on multiple occasions. shyt is ingrained trauma and hopelessness. They bend and change the rules when we master them. This has proven throughout the history of this country.
 
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