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Haven't gone through all of the posts in this thread, but I think you're looking at nihilism in the wrong light. There is no "pure" example or even definition of nihilism and nobody should be expected to be the poster boy for that imaginative view you have on people who embrace it. Nihilism can and should have subjective applications, hence applied with different sets of importance (or lack thereof) placed upon values (or lack thereof) that will vary by individual. So to have the viewpoint that everything is meaningless to a nihilist is to not have the right perspective on it in the first place. Just because someone discards basic morals as defined by the society in which they dwell, doesn't mean they should commit that.

No it doesn't mean that they should commit that, but it does mean that on any given day if you asked them "What is your purpose in life?" or "What gives your life purpose?" And "What do you derive meaning from..." their answer will always be "nothing" if they are a true nihilist.

If you do not recognize why this is closely associated with suicidal contemplation, i dont know what to tell you.
 

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Yup hardcore nihilist/relativist/post-modernist here (I think they all go hand in hand).

For you all talking about, why don't you just kill yourself then, well the world is infinite (word to absolute infinity). Killing yourself would do no good. There are an infinite amount of you's existing at the same time. Killing yourself will not fix anything :wow:

For all you talking about nihilists not being moral, well that's just not true. The golden rule still applies. If you care about nothing, you use logic. I know what it's like to get hurt, so I'm not going to hurt you. I don't care about anything really, but that doesn't give me a free pass to go hurt people. Though there is ultimately no "right" or "wrong," logic still prevails. :wow:
 

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No it doesn't mean that they should commit that, but it does mean that on any given day if you asked them "What is your purpose in life?" or "What gives your life purpose?" And "What do you derive meaning from..." their answer will always be "nothing" if they are a true nihilist.

If you do not recognize why this is closely associated with suicidal contemplation, i dont know what to tell you.
You're trying to validate belief in a dead jewish prophet with radical hair :troll:
 

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For all you talking about nihilists not being moral, well that's just not true. The golden rule still applies. If you care about nothing, you use logic. I know what it's like to get hurt, so I'm not going to hurt you. I don't care about anything really, but that doesn't give me a free pass to go hurt people. Though there is ultimately no "right" or "wrong," logic still prevails. :wow:


Actually, it does, if it is the optimum choice in your interpretation of morality

Morality in nihilism does not expand beyond the scope of a single individual because it cannot.
What's right for you may be wrong for me, but its the moral choice for because its right for you. There is no intrinsic, broadly accepted code of ethics in nihilism, because there cannot be by definition.

A lot of moral nihilist i talk to ascribe to a utilitarian code of ethics. They have some overlap, but at the end of the day they are not the same thing.

Correct if i'm wrong, but I think you probably fall into that boat.
 

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Actually, it does, if it is the optimum choice in your interpretation of morality

Morality in nihilism does not expand beyond the scope of a single individual because it cannot.
What's right for you may be wrong for me, but its the moral choice for because its right for you. There is no intrinsic, broadly accepted code of ethics in nihilism, because there cannot be by definition.

A lot of moral nihilist i talk to ascribe to a utilitarian code of ethics. They have some overlap, but at the end of the day they are not the same thing.

Correct if i'm wrong, but I think you probably fall into that boat.
Perhaps. What's good for the majority of people is logical. So, I guess you could call me a utilitarian, but I always have lived by the golden rule. However, I see your point. There is some overlap there. :ehh:
 

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Perhaps. What's good for the majority of people is logical. So, I guess you could call me a utilitarian, but I always have lived by the golden rule. However, I see your point. There is some overlap there. :ehh:

Nothing wrong with that honestly. Utilitarianism is possibly the most utilized code of ethics during wartime for obvious reasons.

I have no problem with utilitarians. I have different beliefs, but I respect utilitarians because they operate on consistent logic. Whatever is best for the maximum amount of people holds the greatest moral value.:ehh:
 

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Time out....are some of you in here seriously implying that nihilism is one concrete doctrine?:mjlol::mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:

Some of you cats are having psdeuo-intellectual takes on it by implying that multiple forms of nihilism doesn't exist. Nihilism is merely an umbrella philosophical doctrine, just like most philosophical doctrines that exist.

Not all nihilists are a monolith.

A nihilist can in theory, care about things in this world and still not believe anything in life has any intrinsic meaning attached to it's existence.

Some of you seriously need to read up or talk to your philosophy professor or teacher, if you think there's one school of thought regarding nihilism that is universally adhered to.


For example, someone can just be a true nihilist by having a meta-ethic view of morality - basically having the belief that noting is intrinsically immoral or moral. That's subscribing to moral nihilism.
 
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