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I think this would be an interesting conversation to have with other cultures of people. I can't imagine, for instance, any of the wealthy or established professors in my department marrying anything but someone in their race. And actually most are married intraracially. You just can't get around building ur community without building in ur community. This is a non-factor for the wealthy in other races which is apart of their success.
Blks need to be more insular and blk-centered.


Lmao! I'm laughing at the idea of asking my Korean advisor if he even entertained the idea of giving all the wealth or esteem to anything but his Korean wife and children. We tell on ourselves stumbling and falling to give to other races of the world who don't give a damn collectively about giving to us.

But the overwhelming majority of wealthy black folks also married intraracially. However, the difference between blacks and non-blacks is that: while others invest more in their communities because they have generationally been able to build a structure/framework to foster that, black folks don't invest in the black community.

So, the idea that you just have marry black, while economics, which is intertwined with progress and survivability, is in disarray, to be pro-black - is flawed. Economics is much more important. Once you fix that, everything else would fall into place.

Let's look at the 2nd biggest donor to the African American museum (only Oprah donated more, at $21 million), Robert Smith, who donated $20 million. He married interracially. However, do you think he isn't pro-black because of that?
 

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But the overwhelming majority of wealthy black folks also married intraracially. However, the difference between blacks and non-blacks is that: while others invest more in their communities because they have generationally been able to build a structure/framework to foster that, black folks don't invest in the black community.

So, the idea that you just have marry black, while economics, which is intertwined with progress and survivability, is in disarray, to be pro-black - is flawed. Economics is much more important. Once you fix that, everything else would fall into place.

Let's look at the 2nd biggest donor to the African American museum (only Oprah donated more, at $21 million), Robert Smith, who donated $20 million. He married interracially. However, do you think he isn't pro-black because of that?
I'm basing my ideas off observations of the wealthiest most powerful people in the world. Do u really think Bill Gates is chomping at the bits to give his legacy to a blk family?
What about the Waltons?

Marrying blk is just as much of an important investment as contributing economically. Much of this is image building which is something we don't understand. Most wealthy send a powerful message to the poor: you should fukk everybody, but we will keep our wealth and resources within our circle.
I'm not discounting the importance of economics, but I'm asking why view it separate from building black families which serve as both economic and cultural examples for others in our community as both aspects are important.

Further I'm also asking why is this a talking point for blks when the rich in other communities aren't half as willing to open their successes to us? Blks seem overwhelmingly concerned about sharing resources with non-blk mates. I don't see the same themes in discussions amongst other races. Worry less about non-blks and more about ourselves in both marriage AND in economics.
Can't understand why that is so difficult. (I do because we're brainwashed to worship others, but I'm being dramatic for effect.)
 

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Economics IMO. But family matters as well.

But I mean, fukking all the white girls you want. nikkas can play in the snow as long as they come home at the end of the day when it matters. Don't marry these white devils.


FACTS...


I mean, men don't discriminate.


These militants who got requirements like stuck up hoes on who they fukk - don't even got options like that... I've come to realize that.
 

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I'm basing my ideas off observations of the wealthiest most powerful people in the world. Do u really think Bill Gates is chomping at the bits to give his legacy to a blk family?
What about the Waltons?

Marrying blk is just as much of an important investment as contributing economically. Much of this is image building which is something we don't understand. Most wealthy send a powerful message to the poor: you should fukk everybody, but we will keep our wealth and resources within our circle.
I'm not discounting the importance of economics, but I'm asking why view it separate from building black families which serve as both economic and cultural examples for others in our community as both aspects are important.

Further I'm also asking why is this a talking point for blks when the rich in other communities aren't half as willing to open their successes to us? Blks seem overwhelmingly concerned about sharing resources with non-blk mates. I don't see the same themes in discussions amongst other races. Worry less about non-blks and more about ourselves in both marriage AND in economics.
Can't understand why that is so difficult. (I do because we're brainwashed to worship others, but I'm being dramatic for effect.)

But 99% of the wealthiest and most powerful black people in the world married other black people. Off the top, I can't think of anyone else who's married to a non-black person, apart from Michael Jordan. And MJ had a black wife before things got sour. So, at the top, it's the same with black folks.

I agree that both are important. However, I've got a problem with folks who are always quick to question the loyalty of other people, to the black race, because they found love/happiness somewhere else.

Also, if we're to place "economics" and "culture" on a scale right now. Economics is much more important.
 

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But most biracial folks identify as black and a lot of them, especially the ones with black dads, tend to be more pro-black than a lot of black people.

Look at the history on NOI - all their leaders have always been biracial or at the other end of the spectrum when it comes to blackness, including Malcolm X. Say what you want about the group, but it is the longest serving, and most consistent pro-black organization in history. And right now you have got the likes of Colin X and Jesse Williams doing their thing.

So, I believe economics will always be better as long as black interest is paramount and they're not shyttin' on other black folks like wenches do.

no they don't :mjlol:
 

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5 star thread. OP is so right, my opinion of this forum really went down after I started noticing how people prioritize sex over handling business. Females and feminine ass nikkas run popular BA social dialogue so this is why these feminine values persist even though it's slowed the advancement of black people to a crawl in favor of bytching and bickering.

Truthfully all this pro black family shyt is a facade to give people fake moral high ground and the excuse to gossip about others. There I said it. It's just more of the Black american's feminine value system rearing it's head, nikkas wanna seem justified for pocket watching and gossiping about other people's sex lives. People treat being pro black like some social club or fraternity. They want to be able to reject and exclude others for whatever reason but don't want to be a part of the actual work themselves. It's like if you were running a club and your entire staff wants to be the bouncer with the guestlist instead of their actual position and the entire club suffers as a result yet those people all still wanna get paid.

But that doesn't matter as long as you get to be the one calling nikkas c00ns right? If the black community is in desperate need of people willing to invest their time and money over it, why push people away over shyt that doesn't concern you? You got nikkas with single babymommas puffing out their chest telling mfs willing to invest themselves that they can't be pro black. :heh:

These ppl's true priorty isn't pro-blackness, it's their own desire for self gratification dressing up in a dashiki. Lonely bitter females put a scholarly amount of effort into researching and bytching about who rich black men are dating to bring some racial angle to legitimize their own lack of companionship. "I'm not single because of my own flaws it's cause these nikkas hate darkskin women and luv these white girls." stop it. These women end up conflating fulfillment of their own desires/insecurities with black advancement. These are female's priorities, not considering the big picture. And on the other side of the coin, undersexed men #onhere are way more engaged in constantly discussing "bedwenches" than they are with advancement for the sake of actual "black queens". But that just speaks to their own sexual frustrations and anger seeing white dudes getting p*ssy off the color of their skin. nikkas #onhere like to delude themselves into thinking chastising interracial daters is black advancement. Ignoring the big picture to dive into their emotional hangups

But the overwhelming majority of wealthy black folks also married intraracially. However, the difference between blacks and non-blacks is that: while others invest more in their communities because they have generationally been able to build a structure/framework to foster that, black folks don't invest in the black community.

So, the idea that you just have marry black, while economics, which is intertwined with progress and survivability, is in disarray, to be pro-black - is flawed. Economics is much more important. Once you fix that, everything else would fall into place.

Let's look at the 2nd biggest donor to the African American museum (only Oprah donated more, at $21 million), Robert Smith, who donated $20 million. He married interracially. However, do you think he isn't pro-black because of that?


Black people have been fukkin black people since the beginning of time. Black americans have always married within their race. If a black wife was all it took then there wouldn't be a need for black economy, we'd have it.


Also YOU ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING TOWARD THE ADVANCEMENT OF BLACK PPL BY HAVING A BLACK WIFE AND KIDS. TAKING CARE OF YOUR WIFE AND KIDS IS NOT PRO BLACK IT'S BEING A fukkIN MAN. I can't stress this enough. If you make millions for your black wife and kid, that's swell and all but that's not pro black. Any man can take care of his family, holding down your community is a whole different beast.

Just think, under the current setup as long as I'm fukking black p*ssy I don't have to spend a dime on black people or 1 second of my time helping them and still would be considered pro black. :blessed:

I'm basing my ideas off observations of the wealthiest most powerful people in the world. Do u really think Bill Gates is chomping at the bits to give his legacy to a blk family?
What about the Waltons?

This is dumb. You're not observing their moves and paths toward success. you're judging dating habits.....Dating habits. The priority is all off here, you're missing the forest for the trees.

You don't know these men to really know why they chose their partners. Men aren't getting married for the sake of race they marry based on the woman the see potential in. I see rich white dudes in my professional life with asian trophy wives all the time, the prince of england is with a black woman. dudes get with women initially because they're attracted to them, PERIOD. Race factors into that attraction then so be it. Nobody is marrying for the sake of their racial purity and melanin content 3 generations from now or whatever goofy shyt internet nikkas be talking about.

Marrying blk is just as much of an important investment as contributing economically. Much of this is image building which is something we don't understand. Most wealthy send a powerful message to the poor: you should fukk everybody, but we will keep our wealth and resources within our circle.
I'm not discounting the importance of economics, but I'm asking why view it separate from building black families which serve as both economic and cultural examples for others in our community as both aspects are important.
American culture is anti-marriage possibly by design and modern marriage is as unsafe an investment as gambling stocks. shyt is a coinflip at this point. Relationships end, people cheat, people break up or some people can't find someone at all. Most black kids are not being born within a marriage.

Tons of volatile factors to be investing in an image when you could be taking actionable steps toward improving the quality of life for black folk outside of just your family for real, RIGHT NOW. Whether your single, married black or dating ir. Heavy marriage investment would require a cultural overhaul yet there's more you can do RIGHT NOW with group economics than waiting for a spouse. But I guess sitting on your ass talking shyt while claiming a black spouse in the future is better for black people than creating jobs and wealth. (not you personally)


Further I'm also asking why is this a talking point for blks when the rich in other communities aren't half as willing to open their successes to us? Blks seem overwhelmingly concerned about sharing resources with non-blk mates. I don't see the same themes in discussions amongst other races. Worry less about non-blks and more about ourselves in both marriage AND in economics.
Can't understand why that is so difficult. (I do because we're brainwashed to worship others, but I'm being dramatic for effect.)

Because they don't have/tolerate the females of their group (only one's who would care) policing their dating habits. Indians date out, white ppl date out, Asians date out, latinos date out. However no one denies them their intent to help their people based on their mate choice. Maybe other races understand who an individual chooses to marry is their business and chooses to engage in more productive dialog:ehh:

Ask yourself how you can believe in a "white supremacy" that is controlling the world yet is letting white people date who they want unchecked.
 
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Any black man who isn't aiding in the economic advancement of black ppl in some way, is dead weight to me.

Any nikka who thinks that smashing black women makes them "Pro Black" is a fukking idiot. First of all, most of the dudes who say that haven't even married one. They just fukk black women, and will even knock them up and STILL not marry her
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THAT is what most nikkas think Pro Black is. Sleeping with and impregnating black women.


Not even MARRYING them, just simply being attracted enough to them to fukk is their Pro Black criteria. Anytime you ask a nikka if they're Pro Black, they just talk about how they love black p*ssy

Because nikkas don't get it

If you are for the economic advancement of black Americans, it takes more than just fukking.

And getting a chick pregnant and opting not to marry the mother, thus leaving her to rsise your son/daughter on her own is NOT "pro black"

I bet you the nikkas who claim to be pro black got a baby mama(not wife) and kids somewhere that he sees maybe every other weekend, but swears he's pro black:snoop:more pro black than the guys like me out here actually building for black people.


To brothers like me who are trying to make ADVANCEMENTS economically for black people, the nikkas who aren't or won't do that are dead weight to me. They're black on the outside but that's it. Just cling to your little job working for the white man and splurge your check on your trinkets, never try to build shyt, do what you do, but we aren't on the same side. As far as I'm concerned, in 2016, any nikka who is complacent with some menial job, not having a degree or trade, and no plans to help build black businesses with other like minded black people, he's dead weight. What good is he? We won't get anywhere just working for white ppl, creating single parent homes, abanroning our sons, not learning trades and earning certifications, not pooling resources together, not starting businesses, not practicing group economics, etc

We also have plenty of nikkas who's greatest goal is to work in some subordinate position for a white boss and white upper management (because let's face it, even if you stay there for 20 years, the managers are gonna still be mostly white, look around, that's not a coincidence) . What white corporation you been to where the managers are all black with the white guys sll working under them?....I used to work in Corporate, trust me, I know the game. If they don't let you go "unexpectedly", and you stick it out, it still will be very very difficult to climb the ladder to the high position you worked hard for.

Black men's general mindsets towards advancing leaves a lot to be desired. It's a lot of complacency and not aiming higher.

I'm from the South and rso in certain places down here, nikkas will almost buck dance for a McDonald's or Wal Mart job. nikkas act like it's all there is and to me seem scared to try something outside of that box.
 
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I swear, it's almost always the nikkas who didn't even do the simple thing of marrying their baby mama barking about how Pro Black they are, they think running through black p*ssy (and even creating various b*stard children along the way) is the definition of being Pro Black :snoop:


You never hear them talk about entrepreneurship, group economics, real estate, improving black communities, schools, etc. Many of them actually will argue with you if you bring up entrepreneurship

But since they've fukked some black women or have a black baby mama, they are Pro Black, and everybody else needs to just shut the fukk up with that "business" and "building" talk. shyt, they fukked a black woman this week, so they're doing their part. :heh::laff:


Invest? Build? :dahell:As long as I'm having sex with black women or creating black children (that she is going to raise), i am pro black:troll:
 
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