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SunZoo said:
See I can't agree with this regression shyt...I don't think you can take his rating away from him just because you haven't been as enthusiastic about his material over the last couple of years, especially when you consider that compared to his peers and current day nikkas, he's still in that top tier.

I love fif but at any given moment jay could drop a verse better than anything heard on AA, the only reason he looks overrated is because he's been able to maintain his relevance with people who aren't holding him to prime jay-z standards.
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basically u are saying that people who are more knowledgeable and sophisticated abut rap hold j to a higher artiistic standard and thats bad? come on. jay should be pushing himself. imagine if he was as dedicated to the craft these past 10 years as he was 96-03. dude would be the goat probably. instead now he is a dude who was in the conversation and is now pretty much 6-10 all time at best, if that.
 
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SunZoo said:
I been listening to "be a gentleman" in the whip for the last week or so....he loves pushing jay's buttons :laugh:
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he's been doin it forever...its just fun to him at this point cause he feels like jay is soft
 
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man at the end of the day puff diddy khaled birdman they all about breaking bread and being cool with other bosses
them dudes give back to their hoods
50 a bitter ass dude that hates on every fukking body
whats wrong with everybody coming together and working together?
50 ethered his own crew you think im gonna take buck seriously after crying on the phone
you think imma take banks seriously after 50 said he's lazy and a hypeman
he said banks and yayo are spoiled milk
50 is just a negative person
nikka gotta bring down beyonce and jay z out of the blue for no reason
and yall cape for him
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nothin at all

me sayin she's slow is just a fact...ive heard several things and her people make a concerted effort to keep her from publically speaking unless its lines she was able to memorize. or read off a telepromptor or cue cardds..she's not retarded or anthing but she's not the sharpest knife int eh drawer either
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Trillion said:
man at the end of the day puff diddy khaled birdman they all about breaking bread and being cool with other bosses
them dudes give back to their hoods
50 a bitter ass dude that hates on every fukking body
whats wrong with everybody coming together and working together?
50 ethered his own crew you think im gonna take buck seriously after crying on the phone
you think imma take banks seriously after 50 said he's lazy and a hypeman
he said banks and yayo are spoiled milk
50 is just a negative person
nikka gotta bring down beyonce and jay z out of the blue for no reason
and yall cape for him
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he's not bitter its just fun to him...he likes clownin cause he knows none these dudes will even try to square up with him

adnd as far as his crew he already said that shyt to their face...but yet they steill wanna work with him cause they respect him enough to know what he is
 
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Mike Otherz said:
basically u are saying that people who are more knowledgeable and sophisticated abut rap hold j to a higher artiistic standard and thats bad? come on. jay should be pushing himself. imagine if he was as dedicated to the craft these past 10 years as he was 96-03. dude would be the goat probably. instead now he is a dude who was in the conversation and is now pretty much 6-10 all time at best, if that.
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No. I agree his later work is not up to par with his earlier work, but he is the GOAT career wise and is in the discussion for just rap skills GOAT. I mean, who's name is most often said by rappers and fans alike? Rakim. Have you heard Rakim's last two albums? Not so good. His last hot shy!t was in '97. Every rapper has sub par material. It just comes with the territory I guess.
 
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b@squ1@t said:
he's not bitter its just fun to him...he likes clownin cause he knows none these dudes will even try to square up with him

adnd as far as his crew he already said that shyt to their face...but yet they steill wanna work with him cause they respect him enough to know what he is
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yea his crew is full of a bunch of spineless men acting hard on camera because but take orders like children
ovo, ymcmb , we the best every other crew in hip hop operate themselves better everybody holding their own weight
g unit is a joke at this point and its cause of 50
 
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Mike Otherz said:
basically u are saying that people who are more knowledgeable and sophisticated abut rap hold j to a higher artiistic standard and thats bad? come on. jay should be pushing himself. imagine if he was as dedicated to the craft these past 10 years as he was 96-03. dude would be the goat probably. instead now he is a dude who was in the conversation and is now pretty much 6-10 all time at best, if that.
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No, that's to you. When you reach a certain point, you can only enhance your legacy, you can't hurt it unless you do something completely left field to the point where all fans don't look at you the same. You guys whine about this shyt all the time on the internet, but in the grand scope of things, legends are legends and that cannot be taken away. If Jay-Z isn't in your top 5 all time right now, then that must mean someone's body of work surpassed him, otherwise you're holding him to a standard that no one is held to in music regardless of the genre.

No one who had the Beatles at the top took them off because latter records weren't as good. No one is taking MJ off his spot because he couldn't duplicate his early success later in his career. No one is out here saying Mariah Carey isn't Mariah Carey because her most recent album didn't sell as well. No one does this shyt in any other genre except hip hop and it's strange. You don't lose your position all time because you're not what you were at your peak. You lose it because someone can along and surpassed you. The only funny thing about this is that stans of a rapper-50 Cent (not you, just in general)-who maintained his position entirely based on sales after his debut (and has gone down in quality every time since) are now concerned about "quality" in hip hop music. GTFOH.
 
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