[6/9/25] Main Event vs Ring General Monday Night Raw Thread

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I think the group would hit different if Roman was around.
Right now, the only people they can really beef with is Sami and Punk, and Punk is now occupied with Cena.
Maybe they should just try to make Gunther a face and have him beef with them too.
Maybe get help from Ludwig.
He already has a lot of fans that are happy he’s champ again, so maybe it will translate.

I don't know if GUNTHER has it in him to be a face. The only way it works is if he naturally turned on some "Say what you want, but he doesn't duck anyone and he steadily whoops ass on his own merit" where the fans respect the talent too much to boo.

All Seth is really doing is trying to be Roman anyway.
 

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Some wrestlers have entire careers and never get over. Jey got himself over considering the crowd reaction and merch sales he's a singles star if not a draw for live event fans.

As long as a wrestler is over with the crowd, and is a credible champion there's really no such thing as a "deserving" champion. And that's without getting into the nuance of booking.
These dudes don’t get it
This is a show, being great in the ring isn’t that big of a deal, being able to talk is part of it
The most important thing is being over and getting the fans behind you. Add in the fact that he already had a HOF career as a tag team and coming off the biggest storyline in years. It’s not just one thing or the other, it’s a combination

And I am not his biggest fan but to say he didn’t deserve it is ridiculous

These dudes need to go back to being fans and stop acting like they understand the business or creative side.
 

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Great show overall
As I’ve said before I don’t care if the truth stuff was a work or a shoot. I don’t care if the rock Cody stuff was a pivot or the real plan. ALL that matters to me and really anyone else should be was it entertaining and in both cases it was.

We have to stop acting like creative can’t pivot based off fan reaction like they have to get everything right the first time.

Simone said Netflix’s forced HHH to put on a good show because the rating were down. I’m sure HHH has always wanted to put on a good show. It’s not like he intentionally put on bad shows, like people want to give the credit to Netflix for raw being good so they can continue to push the narrative that HHh is bad and can do no right.
 

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They did Jey dirty by having him lose in front of his son just right before Father's Day. :to: Come Sunday Jey gonna be sitting at his house like
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