76ers setting themselves back 10 years with this tanking campaign

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so you welcome a culture of intentional losing?

look at the Cavs post-Lebron and what happens when you spend every year in the lottery

4 top 4 picks and all but one is a bust.

the Sixers in 3 years will be cleveland right now. the GM will be fired and the fans will be wondering how it all went wrong.
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Our owner is all aboard this tank campaign, Our GM is also our Team President and our coach is aboard the tank train too :skip:


Ya'll comparing us to Cleveland as if they have a similar situation when they do not, they lost the best player in 15 yrs to come into the league with nothing to show for it, that's why they suck, they weren't planning to be in the lottery:laff:


That's just bad ownership an GM decision making on their part for missing on those lottery picks that's not my concern, Our GM Sam Hinkie got possibly the two best players in the weakest draft ever last yr, One in MCW, and one unknown in Noel who could possibly still be the best from that class. And people are still doubting him. :wow:


This is how I know Philly will be serious soon, I've never seen a tanking team get this much attention ever. :dead:
 
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Yall seem to be ignoring the huge amount of cap they got. Not sayin they gettin Lebron or no shyt like that but it's pretty big.

hasn't Charlotte had loads of cap space for like a decade?

cap space only matters if free agents actually want to go there. Dwight refused to play in Houston till they got Harden. What superstar you think wants to play in Philly with a bunch of rookies that ain't proved nothing? I tell you right now NONE. The only players that will go to philly are guys like Josh Smith and Al Jefferson. Decent players that ain't getting max money from anyone else and will go to the fool that overpays them.

Cap space is only relevant when its the Lakers, Chicago, NYK, or Miami. Otherwise you better have a damn good team in place already that is ready to compete to entice superstar free agents like Melo, Love, Aldridge, etc.
 

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co-sign. Cavs had 4 top 4 picks in 3 seasons and missed on all but one of them. This intentionally losing strategy is pathetic and there are other ways to build contenders.

The Pacers did it by drafting good players in the mid-late 1st round (George, Hibbert), signing decent vets (West), and making wise trades (Hill). Then they built the group up methodically having them get better year by year. Heat did it by clearing cap space and signing big-time free agents. The only contender to build through high lottery picks was OKC and unlike Philly they weren't intentionally tanking. They just happened to get 3 top 4 picks in 3 seasons and hit on all 3 (Durant, Westbrook, Harden).

But the cavs front office has proven over the years that they are incompetent. You think a team with a competent GM wouldn't hit on early first rounders?
 
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fukk tanking, root for your team to be in NBA purgatory/limbo 8th/9th seeds every year with no good picks brehs :troll:

no one is rooting for limbo. we simply are telling you the idea you can build a contender by intentionally losing is retarded. no one has EVER built a title contender from nothing through 2 drafts. Philly has basically put all its eggs in two draft classes.

this intentionally losing for a high draft pick only works if you are in a 97 Spurs or this years Lakers situation where you already have a veteran superstar, cap space, and a culture of winning.

OKC is the abberation not the model. Most teams that spend 3-4 years in the lottery don't become contenders.
 

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no their strategy is MORONIC. this isn't a video game.

2 draft classes is not gonna change Philly into a contender. I can't think of one champion or contender in the last 20 years that won the title based on gutting their roster to be epically bad so that they can rebuild through 2 draft classes. The closest we can get to it are the early 90s Orlando Magic (when they got Shaq in '92, Penny in '93, and made it to the finals in 95) and the current OKC (when they got Durant in 07, Westbrook in 08, and Harden in 09). These two teams are the exception. Most champions/contenders are built like the Lakers/Heat/Spurs. Its based on free agency, building through wise draft choices, and building a team with veteran leadership.

the intentional destruction of a team in hopes of building it back is something for video games not real life. you're better off building a culture of winning and gradually improving through smart choices like the current Pacers than intentionally losing.

The only teams that intentional tank jobs help are someone like this years Lakers or the 97 Spurs. Those teams were forced to tank because of injuries. They already had in a place vets who knew how to win and a culture of winning. Once they got the top draft pick they could plug him right in and it would help them win immediately.

Philly strategy will blow up in their face like we're seeing right now with the Cavs.



Again, what exactly were they supposed to do, pay Turner and Hawes? They weren't winning anything with Holiday, Young, Turner and Hawes, so where is this winning culture going to come from when the players in question weren't good enough to win in the first place :smh:

Word, you're trying to use the Pacers as your example?

Here's their record before drafting George -
35-47
36-46
35-47
36-46
36-46
32-50

Where was the winning culture you're talking about? They were a middle of the road team that refused to tank and wasted 6 seasons before they finally got Paul George, and they really lucked into that considering he fell to 10th. So your example of building a winning culture are the Pacers, a team that had a combined record of 210-282 over a 6 year period, nice breh. For the last time, what were the Sixers supposed to do when nobody was willing to give up assets for the players they had? They got a nice return on Holiday, and got what they could for Hawes and Turner :smh:

You're just arguing a retarded point right now, the best teams in the league with the exception of the Heat were built through the draft or acquiring assets to flip later for stars, the Clippers and Rockets don't get Cp3 or Harden without the draft picks or young players they gave up. The Cavs have years to figure out what they want to do with the young players they drafted, and they are ONLY 4 years removed from losing the best player in the league, yeah that's easy to recover from :russ:

You gonna look like such a clown if the Sixers end up with a top 3 pick and another top 10 pick, then turn some of those 2nd rounders into late firsts. Why are you hating on the Sixers too, as though they are the only young team tanking?
 

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hasn't Charlotte had loads of cap space for like a decade?

cap space only matters if free agents actually want to go there. Dwight refused to play in Houston till they got Harden. What superstar you think wants to play in Philly with a bunch of rookies that ain't proved nothing? I tell you right now NONE. The only players that will go to philly are guys like Josh Smith and Al Jefferson. Decent players that ain't getting max money from anyone else and will go to the fool that overpays them.

Cap space is only relevant when its the Lakers, Chicago, NYK, or Miami. Otherwise you better have a damn good team in place already that is ready to compete to entice superstar free agents like Melo, Love, Aldridge, etc.

Say what they had Harden early before the season man wtf you talking about. So Trailblazers didn't built their team from drafting or OKC how about What he Wizards are starting to do.

Dude you just talking out ya ass.
 
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so this nikka @Swagnificent is just assuming that the Sixers will blow all their picks? :heh:

its far more likely they blow most of those picks than hit on all or most of them. Charlotte, Sacremento, Cleveland, etc. have the last 3-4 years in the lottery and have pretty much nothing to show for it. Its VERY RARE for teams that spend 3-4 years in the lottery to hit on all those picks and build a contender. OKC is like the outlier. Charlotte and Cleveland are more of the model.
 

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no their strategy is MORONIC. this isn't a video game.

2 draft classes is not gonna change Philly into a contender. I can't think of one champion or contender in the last 20 years that won the title based on gutting their roster to be epically bad so that they can rebuild through 2 draft classes. The closest we can get to it are the early 90s Orlando Magic (when they got Shaq in '92, Penny in '93, and made it to the finals in 95) and the current OKC (when they got Durant in 07, Westbrook in 08, and Harden in 09). These two teams are the exception. Most champions/contenders are built like the Lakers/Heat/Spurs. Its based on free agency, building through wise draft choices, and building a team with veteran leadership.

the intentional destruction of a team in hopes of building it back is something for video games not real life. you're better off building a culture of winning and gradually improving through smart choices like the current Pacers than intentionally losing.

The only teams that intentional tank jobs help are someone like this years Lakers or the 97 Spurs. Those teams were forced to tank because of injuries. They already had in a place vets who knew how to win and a culture of winning. Once they got the top draft pick they could plug him right in and it would help them win immediately.

Philly strategy will blow up in their face like we're seeing right now with the Cavs.

No its not moronic because SA, MIA, and LAL all got their star players(Wade, Kobe, Duncan) to build around in the draft lottery :heh:
 
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Say what they had Harden early before the season man wtf you talking about. So Trailblazers didn't built their team from drafting or OKC how about What he Wizards are starting to do.

Dude you just talking out ya ass.

never said anything about building through the draft. I just said intentionally setting your team up to lose so that you can have high drafts picks for 2 years won't turn you into a contender.

Portland never intentionally gutted their team to load up on 2nd round picks, trade their best young players for 1st round picks and then think that putting together 10 first year and second year players would be a good idea on building a contender.

You can build through the draft without tanking. The Pacers did it while still being respectable. The Blazers did it while still competing.

My problem isn't with building a team through the draft the RIGHT WAY. My problem is with this video game mentality in Philly that someone trading everyone for 1st and 2nd round picks in the next 2 years will suddenly make them any better than they are right now.
 

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never said anything about building through the draft. I just said intentionally setting your team up to lose so that you can have high drafts picks for 2 years won't turn you into a contender.

Portland never intentionally gutted their team to load up on 2nd round picks, trade their best young players for 1st round picks and then think that putting together 10 first year and second year players would be a good idea on building a contender.

You can build through the draft without tanking. The Pacers did it while still being respectable. The Blazers did it while still competing.

My problem isn't with building a team through the draft the RIGHT WAY. My problem is with this video game mentality in Philly that someone trading everyone for 1st and 2nd round picks in the next 2 years will suddenly make them any better than they are right now.


You don't get did any of those teams change their GM and ownership breh????? They are gutting the team of useless horrible decisions from previous ownerships. What are you talking about man???????
 
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