76ers setting themselves back 10 years with this tanking campaign

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Oh, so you're going to conveniently leave out that you have been saying Embiid, Wiggins and Exum will be stars? If they get the top pick, or even the 2nd pick they are guaranteed a shot at one of those 3 players, even if Embiid doesn't come out.


The Clippers being awful and stacking lottery picks is exactly why they got CP3, lets leave out the stock piling of assets brehs.

No they got CP3 because the league vetoed the Lakers trade (which is where CP3 wanted to go). If there was no veto, CP3 would be a Laker because that is where he wanted to go. He only went to the Clippers cause there was no where else. Remember he only resigned with them in the off-season after seeing that Blake could play.

Stacking up assets mean nothing if the best players are still calling the shots about where they'll resign. Just look at how the Lakers got Dwight. They definitely didn't have a package as good as some of the other teams had but Dwight told Orlando only NJ, LA, and Dallas were on his list.

I think Embiid, Wiggins, and Exum will be superstars, BUT I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. Like I've said a million times. This is real life not a video game. If this was a video game and I could peek at their rating, and I we knew that all 3 would be superstars, you can sign me up for the tank train right now. But we simply don't know. For all we know the best player in this class could be the 10th pick like Paul George. For all we know, someone outside the lottery will get the #1 pick and all of Philly's tanking shenanigans will land them is the 5th pick and Julius "alligator arms" Randle.
 

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You can tell he never actually watched Hawes or Turner play, dude just looks at their stats and probably said "These guys are good!"

Lmao exactly. Hawes don't even start in Cleveland of all places Shyt he will never start again. Turner will never be a starter again.
 

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Who said anything about not building through the draft? Almost every player in the league was drafted at some point. Obviously the draft is critical. I'm simply saying that the best teams build incrementally through smart draft choices (don't need to be lottery cause Parker and Ginobili weren't), free agency, and trades.

There has never been a champion that built itself through 2 drafts after intentionally gutting the team to acquire first and second round picks. This is shyt you see in video games. The fact you nikkas is defending this is laughable to me.

This sums up everything. These dudes think its a video game where you can just trade all your assets for draft picks and draft the next bron and dwade and your set for the next 10 yrs. All I know is no decent free agent will even consider Philly for the next 5 years and if those draft picks don't turn out to be the next KD, Westbrook and Harden than they gonna lose a bunch of fans when there losing by 20 pts every single night for the foreseeable future. There needs to be some kind of NBA rule where you cant just unload everyone single player cuz this shyt is risky as fukk.
 

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Who said anything about not building through the draft? Almost every player in the league was drafted at some point. Obviously the draft is critical. I'm simply saying that the best teams build incrementally through smart draft choices (don't need to be lottery cause Parker and Ginobili weren't), free agency, and trades.

There has never been a champion that built itself through 2 drafts after intentionally gutting the team to acquire first and second round picks. This is shyt you see in video games. The fact you nikkas is defending this is laughable to me.

Yeah but we haven't seen philly draft those picks yet so how do you know the picks wont be good choices? They have a multitude of picks they can hit or miss on, they have a shytload of 2nd round picks they can move up in the draft for, and they can even package those combination of picks + a player in a trade for a player whos contributing now. They have assets to go in either direction. Then they also have cap space to go in the free agency direction as you said. So where are they going wrong exactly? :hooddahell:
 

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You can tell he never actually watched Hawes or Turner play, dude just looks at their stats and probably said "These guys are good!"

Turner is a ball dominant, inefficient wing player who can't shoot it consistently and has below average athleticism


Hawes is a soft 7'0 3pt shooting center who is a turnstile on defense and can't finish around the rim, also very inconsistent
 

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You people are idiots

we're going to get Wiggins and on the low Nerlens noel could be ROY next season.. and we have the ROY for this season ... and we have mad cap room
 

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:dahell: Didn't Cleveland have 4 top 4 picks in 3 seasons? Doesn't Charlotte pick in the top 5 every year? Didn't the Clippers have a run last decade where they were perennially at the top of the lottery?

Having high first round picks doesn't necessarily mean you'll become better. There could always be better players later in the draft. You cite Paul George being had at pick 10, but you gotta remember even 10 was considered a reach for him. The draft is a crap shoot. Everyone knows this. No one ever really knows who'll be great and who won't. The idea to intentionally lose now because you'll turn into a contender through 2 drafts is stupid and as I stated never been done.
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So to be clear, @Swagnificent is basically implying the Sixers should have kept Turner and Hawes.

No. I got no problem getting rid of players that suck or trying to get value for guys who'll leave you in free agency. I simply woulda traded them for other players that I like rather than for second round picks then cutting the player included in the deal to make the salaries match and replacing that roster spot with NBDL players so I can get more ping pong balls. I don't have a problem with rebuilding. I have a problem with the video game rebuilding strategy this cac is using.

Just look at the Lakers trade with Golden State. Rather than trying to get worthless second round picks in some lame tanking ploy, we got young players that were being underutilized in Kent Bazemore and Marshon Brooks. Young players who've shown they can hang in the league unlike most players you can get in the second round. Now its only 2 games but I'm really liking them as potential bench players. So what if they help us win some irrelevant games like against Boston, I'm still getting value, experience, and the potential that they'll be productive.

The Lakers are doing it the right way. You can see the difference between a guy whose played the league, been a GM for 2 championships, and knows what it takes vs. some fat cac that prolly only played video games before getting this GM gig.
 
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Lmao exactly. Hawes don't even start in Cleveland of all places Shyt he will never start again. Turner will never be a starter again.

Hawes just got there you cant expect him to start right away and Turner isn't that bad and could start for alot of teams in the NBA. All I'm saying is who ever you draft in the 2nd round has a good chance they never become as productive as Hawes and Turner were. Just go through the list of dudes drafted in the 2nd round of the last couple of drafts and of lot of them are either in the Dleague or overseas. You could of still tanked with them on the roster just by the up and down no defense style of play your new coach implemented.
 

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This sums up everything. These dudes think its a video game where you can just trade all your assets for draft picks and draft the next bron and dwade and your set for the next 10 yrs. All I know is no decent free agent will even consider Philly for the next 5 years and if those draft picks don't turn out to be the next KD, Westbrook and Harden than they gonna lose a bunch of fans when there losing by 20 pts every single night for the foreseeable future. There needs to be some kind of NBA rule where you cant just unload everyone single player cuz this shyt is risky as fukk.

You guys' assumptions are killing me. Why do you think Hinkie's accumulated all of these picks and hired a player development coach? It's to increase the team's chances of finding a star in the draft. Drafts don't just provide talented players; they provide talented players AT A SUBSTANTIAL DISCOUNT. In this era of free agency, those assets are considered to be GOLD. So even if they don't become superstars, they can be traded in the future for a star (See Boston trading Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes et. al for Kevin Garnett, Marc Gasol and junk for Pau, or Eric Gordon and Aminu for CP3)
 
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