8-6-15 GOP Faux News Debate Thread 8:50pm EST

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AJaRuleStan said:
They're not just doing things for the fukk of it. Decreasing gov't subsidies on loans and having colleges work more like a "normal market" is a viable solution in their eyes. Their logic is this -- college tuition is high because Gov't is artificially meeting the demand at said price by providing subsidies/loans, which removes any incentive for the market to lower prices, naturally. You remove/lower the subsidies than competing colleges have an incentive to lower prices because consumers will not be able to pay at the current price that colleges charge, and lowering prices would attract business away from competitors which would increase profits.
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But we had a system where public colleges were cheap as hell and there was no student loan debt crisis until Republican governors like Ronald Reagan slashed funding for those schools and basically created the environment for these schools to begin behaving like businesses which led to the cash grab for the student loan money.
Just expecting schools to start lowering prices on their own when they have been free to raise costs at will is naive and decreasing student loan dollars isn't the best option either. If schools are raising costs because they figure that will get them more student loan money then add strings to the dissemination of student loans.
Any school that inflates costs without valid provable reasons will be shut out of the student loan money pool. Competent oversight is what is needed not overzealous slashing of student loan funding.
 
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Lakers Offseason said:
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According to Politifact that meme is taking into account campaign contributions for Clinton and Sanders entire political careers and not for this campaign cycle.
 
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Melbournelad said:
When he said it did he say it in a positive way, as in that's what he wants them to do? :merchant:
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Huckabee must have been gone off that Molly last night :russ:

Dude said our army should only exist to kill people :russ:

Backdoored that with we should completely get rid of the IRS:russ:

Realized he left his jacket, came back in, and on the way out said we should just completely get rid of Social Security to :russ:

Then made a point to tell you that the government is just using Social Security to rob the american people...which you wold think we need to find some way to get our money back from social security before getting rid of it...but nope...just shut it down and let the government skate off with 100 of billions of dollars...:russ:
 
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Lakers Offseason said:
I'm gonna have to vote for one of these clowns if Hillary wins the nominee.

Rubio looks the most Presidential and Kasick seemed like he's a good alternative.
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Why would you vote for how a person "looks" :jbhmm:

Does the fact that Rubio ran Florida into the ground mean anything at all:jbhmm:

You voting a man into the white house cause he didn't have one strand of hair out of place? :jbhmm:

Kasick is the only guy who made any logical sense with any of his arguments...but he is the "alternative" to the guy who "looks" the most presidential :jbhmm:
 
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Jello Biafra said:
But we had a system where public colleges were cheap as hell and there was no student loan debt crisis until Republican governors like Ronald Reagan slashed funding for those schools and basically created the environment for these schools to begin behaving like businesses which led to the cash grab for the student loan money.
Just expecting schools to start lowering prices on their own when they have been free to raise costs at will is naive and decreasing student loan dollars isn't the best option either. If schools are raising costs because they figure that will get them more student loan money then add strings to the dissemination of student loans.
Any school that inflates costs without valid provable reasons will be shut out of the student loan money pool. Competent oversight is what is needed not overzealous slashing of student loan funding.
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Not entirely true...the system that we had in place before was very inefficient in delivering loans and grants. The system in the 60's and 70's was wrought with fraud and the government started to decrease funding directly to colleges anyway. This was also when the University of Phoenix's and forprofit schools began to take federal student loan and pell grant funding (1972 to be exact). What Reagan and HW did regarding student loans was just a continuation of Carter and Nixon honestly. So whether we are directly funding schools like the old days or giving money directly to students either way the system will continue to waste billions.
 
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