A Serious Discussion on the Homicide Rate in the Black Community

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Are law abiding citizens not allowed to complain about the issues that affect them? :gucci:

I don't know what it is with people always expecting the most from those who are living their lives without harming others. Just today, I recall some clown getting at people who are in favour imprisoning criminals because a father was released from prison. 0 expectations from the person who had mouths to feed, but complete scorn for people who want to live in a safe community.
 

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Lets define


-what crime is first (that is very important because what may be seen as a crime to the average person-jaywalker for example, may not be seen as such among other factors such as area)
-how crime is measured
--who determimes what is and is not a crime?
-who has the power to make a law to turn any action into a crime
-why did such person such a crime? (Mens reas)

And etc etc. The average american doesnt know the law like that and theres new laws being made everyday where in a few of these laws, theyre turning an every day action we do into a crime.
 
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I live in The Bronx….so I’m not allowed to talk about the environment i live and work in because I don’t have a no profit organization and some community outreach programs. nikkas is shooting heroin in the face outside of my job and we had a nikka die outside the other day.


I work in a mens shelter and i have seen at least 15+ people die since 2020



I have another job at a detention center and all the young nikkas you hear about being murdered in Broad Daylight on the news, they killer’s are being housed there. So I’m all around the murderers and the murdered, in my professional life and my civilian life…..my baby moms is a teacher we in THE BRONX these little 8th graders are writing and reading comprehension is 1st grade level bro but they getting caught in school with guns and drugs etc…



But their mother’s are showing to parent teacher’s conference with spandex showing off their BBL’s and Fat transfers, with the furry UGG slipper’s ready to beat teacher’s up because their daughters and sons are behind in school, nikkas coming to school with 400 dollar sneaker’s and 1500 dollar coat’s but they selling drug’s in the bathroom and carrying pistol’s smh
I worked in nyc cps years ago and the truth about this is just :wow:
 

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I've noticed for years that for the most part, the media never goes far enough into finding out exactly why somebody murdered or harmed another person, All you will hear is something like, they killed someone over a domestic dispute. They never go into detail exactly what triggered the event. Like for example the football player who was shot by his own father the other day over a dog bite. There had to be more to that story. Not condoning him for killing his son, but maybe the dog was sicked on him, etc... I honestly believe that at some point, his son put his hands on him, similar to the Marvin Gaye situation. I always felt if we knew exactly what the murderer instantly confessed to during the investigation, it may make you think twice about saying or doing certain things that trigger certain individuals. For example reading a headline saying, "Man shot over girl" don't tell you much. Perhaps somebody pinched his girls butt in front of him, or something in that nature. Reporting more of exactly what triggered that shooting, would make men think twice about touching someone else's women in front of them, or even when they're near by. I always felt the system don't really want us to know the exact reasons behind these crimes, because they want a certain amount of it to continue.
 
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You talk about these killers/ thieves in the community and these fools act as if you’ve insulted their mother

shyt is a damn embarrassment. It’s crazy how you are called c00n and cac for acknowledging and showing concern about these crimes in our community.:mindblown:
 

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Y’all nikkas need to realize all black people don’t live in these areas stop saying the “black community” y’all don’t make sense.
I do agree many of us are out the way…. But we as a people are a unit (at least I feel they way) so I still see it as my community….


But this “genocide” is a choice…. there are plenty of non violent paths in life to take and I know because for the most part I’ve made those choices myself….. but still
we do owe it to our youth to guide them toward the right choices
 

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Unfortunately a lot of people have shytty parents, but that by itself isn't a motive for killing someone. The vast majority of people in that situation don't commit homicide.

I'm not trying to say that doesn't matter, but I'm wanting to know what the actual, direct motives usually are for killing people. Is it usually just gang bullshyt? I'm legitimately curious.

there’s no simple concise answer to this question

but family does play a part in this. Black males that are more likely to join gangs, deal drugs are settle issues with guns come from fukked up home situations

And there’s a lot of different reasons a family situation can be fukked up. Bad mother, absent father, neglect became too many kids or too much work

Then there’s just going to be some people that’s drawn to a living a wild life
 

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The coli threads on black issues sound like white people playing black.

Why oh why is this happening!? Dont blame white folk at all, tho - we don't wanna hear that shyt!

Why are you blacks - I mean, us blacks so damn criminal!?

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If you look at it from a different perspective, maybe a lot of us are tired of ignoring the bullshyt.

Random, but related at the same time...psychologically, music is very well proven to affect people's moods. Verbal abuse is real, so you know words affect people also. WITH THAT SAID, what other group of people on earth are okay with having their pretty much ONLY genre of music at this point be about killing, hate, drugs, prostitution, etc? Though it's not right, if for nothing else, everybody on earth will look at us like fools because that just lets you know how damn goofy and passive we can be, if we allow something like that to be heard by our kids 24/7. We are telling kids every single day to shoot nikkas but think that the youth aint out here shooting nikkas? They wake up at 7am and the first thing they hear while they're taking a shyt is somebody telling them to shoot nikkas 30 different ways? I guess the white folks went in the booth and wrote them lyrics and recorded them, right?

FOR THE 3RD TIME IN TWO DAYS, PLEASE, EVERYBODY GO TAKE A GOT DAMN PSYCHOLOGY CLASS (PREFERABLY, CULTURAL PSYCHOLOGY). Maybe your entire perspective on life will change if you understood why people behave the way they do
 

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I've noticed for years that for the most part, the media never goes far enough into finding out exactly why somebody murdered or harmed another person, All you will hear is something like, they killed someone over a domestic dispute. They never go into detail exactly what triggered the event. Like for example the football player who was shot by his own father the other day over a dog bite. There had to be more to that story. Not condoning him for killing his son, but maybe the dog was sicked on him, etc... I honestly believe that at some point, his son put his hands on him, similar to the Marvin Gaye situation. I always felt if we knew exactly what the murderer instantly confessed to during the investigation, it may make you think twice about saying or doing certain things that trigger certain individuals. I mean reading a headline saying, "Man shot over girl" don't tell you much. Perhaps somebody pinched his girls butt in front of him, or something in that nature. Reporting more of exactly what triggered that shooting, would make men think twice about touching someone else's women in front of them. I always felt the system don't really want us to know the exact reasons behind these crimes, because they want a certain amount of it to continue.

Yeah, somebody should go to a prison and do a survey or something on homicide convicts to see what their motives actually were.

I'm curious as to what percentage of homicides are gang/drug related, what percentage are just psychopaths committing random acts of violence, what percentage are due to domestic disputes, what percentage were financially motivated (ie. robberies), what percentage were over women, what percentage were over completely petty shyt like someone stepping on their shoes, etc.
 
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Once again an idiot defending terrorists. You’re more mad at me then the ones causing the destruction. I’m “stuck on stupid” but the actual terrorists aren’t? Y’all are so ass backwards

you’d get more respect if you said this in said hoods

I actually harass white ppl in real life, not just holler cac on the Coli
 

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shyt is a damn embarrassment. It’s crazy how you are called c00n and cac for acknowledging and showing concern about these crimes in our community.:mindblown:
You’re called a c00n for being pissed off about black People being murdered. Black children being casualties of this bullshyt.
 
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