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are you implying that jon b was bigger the Ginuwine??:laugh:
didn't know celine dion was on that label. shes not an r&b artist tho. Ginuwine didn't benefit.

blackground may have been smaller than 550. I honestly don't know much about 550, seeing that it didn't have that much of an impact on r&b.
besides, Ginuwine didn't have an uncle who owned the label like Aaliyah did on blackground. regardless of which label is bigger, he didn't have the same machine. and he was still more popular.

and I already listed multiple reasons why Ginuwine was bigger than Aaliyah. while you just ignore it and repeat yourself. at best, you list some random industry chit like "she got a soundtrack single".

Aaliyah was kid chit breh. and she wasn't kriss kross or brandy level of kid chit.

Whether Jon B was bigger than Ginuwine is not the point. Thats a whole other argument. The point is 550 Music had a much bigger infrastructure and machine than Blackground. Blackground had no stars until Aaliyah.

Aaliyah's uncles are irrelevant to the argument as well. They weren't as integral as you'd like to believe. They ran the label, but Michael Haughton was her manager and as label heads, the Hankersons weren't exactly power players as Aaliyah was their biggest act. They definitely were Mottolla status who tan 550.

Aaliyah did much more than land Soundtrack singles. She is the reason why both Dr. Dolittle and Romeo Must Die sold 1.5 million as soundtracks and Ginuwine had songs on both.

In terms of the kid stuff, you're reaching with that. When Kriss Kross grew up, ironically they got Aaliyah to feature on their single. Nas had Aaliyah on his album, which obviously weren't attempts to reach kids considering the content of the songs.
 

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Whether Jon B was bigger than Ginuwine is not the point. Thats a whole other argument. The point is 550 Music had a much bigger infrastructure and machine than Blackground. Blackground had no stars until Aaliyah.

Aaliyah's uncles are irrelevant to the argument as well. They weren't as integral as you'd like to believe. They ran the label, but Michael Haughton was her manager and as label heads, the Hankersons weren't exactly power players as Aaliyah was their biggest act. They definitely were Mottolla status who tan 550.

Aaliyah did much more than land Soundtrack singles. She is the reason why both Dr. Dolittle and Romeo Must Die sold 1.5 million as soundtracks and Ginuwine had songs on both.

In terms of the kid stuff, you're reaching with that. When Kriss Kross grew up, ironically they got Aaliyah to feature on their single. Nas had Aaliyah on his album, which obviously weren't attempts to reach kids considering the content of the songs.


blackground was just starting out.

"romeo must die" was connected to DMX.

youre beating around the bush. and I don't know what youre rambling about at the end. youre just wasting my time at this point.
 

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blackground was just starting out.

"romeo must die" was connected to DMX.

youre beating around the bush. and I don't know what youre rambling about at the end. youre just wasting my time at this point.

Regardless if it was just starting out or not, you were in here saying Aaliyah was on a bigger label, which was false.

The song with DMX was a flop and it wasn't his song that was a hit nor does he even appear on the soundtrack's cover. Aaliyah had a #1 hit on the soundtrack and was the catalyst for it selling over a million copies.

Nobody's beating around the bush. You came in the thread hating and got proven wrong on numerous occassions now you're trying to exit by copping pleas.
 

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This fool STILL hating on Aaliyah??

@Homeboy Runny-Ray Come on breh. You tryna wake her up to tell her how bad her sales were?


not hating on anybody. the truth just hurts I see.

and I was tagged back in here.



Regardless if it was just starting out or not, you were in here saying Aaliyah was on a bigger label, which was false.

The song with DMX was a flop and it wasn't his song that was a hit nor does he even appear on the soundtrack's cover. Aaliyah had a #1 hit on the soundtrack and was the catalyst for it selling over a million copies.

Nobody's beating around the bush. You came in the thread hating and got proven wrong on numerous occassions now you're trying to exit by copping pleas.


its not about the label. its about the push.

DMX is DMX.

I'm not exiting anywhere. I just know how you are. you will argue to the death, even if you have nothing to say, and just repeat yourself until you get the last word. same chit every thread.
 

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You ain't about to move goal posts. Don't come in here talking about 550 Music. Jon B. and Celine Dion were on that label. They werw Ginuwines labelmates as well. Additonally, if you want to play the game of subsidiaries, Blackground Records was smaller than 550. Aside from Aaliyah, there wasn't any stars on that label until it acquired Toni Braxton in 2004.

All of those singles got a push, they just weren't nearly as successful as "Pony". All were released as CD singles, maxi and cassette with a video.

There is nothing that quantifies Ginuwine being bigger than Aaliyah. For starters, her songs were carrying soundtracks and Ginuwine had songs on the same soundtracks and one of them was a single.

No bullshyt. Hand to God. I didn’t even remember Ginuwine had songs on them soundtracks until I just googled it. And I have both.

Try Again and Are You That Somebody were both pop culture events, though.

Try Again was #1 strictly off AirPlay and had Aaliyah beating out Britney Spears for VMA Awards when Britney was at her peak.

She was definitely the reason them shyts were successful.
 

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not hating on anybody. the truth just hurts I see.

and I was tagged back in here.






its not about the label. its about the push.

DMX is DMX.

I'm not exiting anywhere. I just know how you are. you will argue to the death, even if you have nothing to say, and just repeat yourself until you get the last word. same chit every thread.

And Ginuwine got push. In fact a lot of it.

X is X, but that single flopped and Aaliyah's solo song soared and she was easily the selling point of the soundtrack as "I Don't Wanna" did well too even without a video.

Well, you came in the thread posturing like you knew what you were talkong about and got proven wrong several times over.

I could care less about a less word.
 

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No bullshyt. Hand to God. I didn’t even remember Ginuwine had songs on them soundtracks until I just googled it. And I have both.

Try Again and Are You That Somebody were both pop culture events, though.

Try Again was #1 strictly off AirPlay and had Aaliyah beating out Britney Spears for VMA Awards when Britney was at her peak.

She was definitely the reason them shyts were successful.

Yeah, "Same Ol G" was a single from Dr. Doolittle. It even got a video. Admittedly, I liked that song more than "Are You That Somebody", but "Are You That Somebody" took on a life of its own.
 

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And Ginuwine got push. In fact a lot of it.

X is X, but that single flopped and Aaliyah's solo song soared and she was easily the selling point of the soundtrack as "I Don't Wanna" did well too even without a video.

Well, you came in the thread posturing like you knew what you were talkong about and got proven wrong several times over.

I could care less about a less word.


"I don't wanna" was already out on "next Friday".

you still havnt proven me wrong.

Aaliyah & Ginuwine on a tour, who is the crowd way more hype for??? we already saw the answer to that in real-time.

Aaliyah & Ginuwine do separate shows.......when the hell has Aaliyah ever even done a show without curtain-jerking??


Idk what truth you spillin and idc

All I know is you been downtalking Aaliyah for damn near 6 years now :deadmanny:

But that's my piece, I don't want no part of your bad karma.. nikka fukk around get haunted :hubie:


I simply don't play dumb & worship deceased artists when they get overhyped.

you act like I'm cursing her spirit & urinating on her grave or something.
 

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"I don't wanna" was already out on "next Friday".

you still havnt proven me wrong.

Aaliyah & Ginuwine on a tour, who is the crowd way more hype for??? we already saw the answer to that in real-time.

Aaliyah & Ginuwine do separate shows.......when the hell has Aaliyah ever even done a show without curtain-jerking??

It was also on the Romeo Must Die soundtrack.

Breh, you said Aaliyah was on a bigger label. That was false. Then you tried to argue the subsidiary and got proven wrong again.

^^^ Both arguments you used to try to imply that in spite of Aaliyah being on a bigger label, Ginuwine was bigger. That was ine of the conditions of the argument you attempted to make.

Then you tried to say Ginuwine didn't get much promo, which again was priven wrong. He had 6 cd singles and 7 videos, television performances, and even cameos in other videos to hit songs including Aaliyah's.

And a crowd response from a concert really proves nothing if you aren't including the context. If the crowd is majority female, I'm betting on Ginuwine getting more of a response.
 

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Yeah, "Same Ol G" was a single from Dr. Doolittle. It even got a video. Admittedly, I liked that song more than "Are You That Somebody", but "Are You That Somebody" took on a life of its own.

I just googled it.

It’s interesting considering that Same Ol G wasn’t even a hit and charted nowhere in the US, despite having a video and being an official single. :russ:

Something about billboard guidelines but it didn’t even do that great in airplay, either. :mjlol:

Meanwhile Aaliyah’s song was #1 in airplay.:francis:
 

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I just googled it.

It’s interesting considering that Same Ol G wasn’t even a hit and charted nowhere in the US, despite having a video and being an official single. :russ:

Something about billboard guidelines but it didn’t even do that great in airplay, either. :mjlol:

Meanwhile Aaliyah’s song was #1 in airplay.:francis:

"Are You That Somebody" got hit with a policy change from Billboard which slowed it down as well.
 

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It was also on the Romeo Must Die soundtrack.

Breh, you said Aaliyah was on a bigger label. That was false. Then you tried to argue the subsidiary and got proven wrong again.

^^^ Both arguments you used to try to imply that in spite of Aaliyah being on a bigger label, Ginuwine was bigger. That was ine of the conditions of the argument you attempted to make.

Then you tried to say Ginuwine didn't get much promo, which again was priven wrong. He had 6 cd singles and 7 videos, television performances, and even cameos in other videos to hit songs including Aaliyah's.

And a crowd response from a concert really proves nothing if you aren't including the context. If the crowd is majority female, I'm betting on Ginuwine getting more of a response.


clearly, I know that. I'm saying the song was already out and old by that point.

I never said anything about Epic. I went str8 to the subsidiary. stop misquoting me

it doesn't matter how many singles you drop if they just throw most of them out there. and this isn't my first time saying this. which means this is yet another statement that youre ducking. I'm used to it tho. you do the same routine in every thread.

lol @ the bolded. youre reaching for the stars and still coming up short. females are the main ones poppin for both of them.
and the biggest tour they did was the Budweiser superfest headlined by mary j & bone thugs. so all types were showing out in the crowd, and Aaliyah's chitty reviews from that tour are still easy to find.

and its not just the crowd reactions. its hard to explain in words that you understand because you always lack cognizance.
 
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