According to Jim Jackson, Kobe Quit in Game 7 of the 2006 Playoffs Because..

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I think Phil disliked Kobe and it’s a wonder how they went to 3 straight finals. Kobe really dialed himself back to, “get along and go along”, for the betterment of the team. However, there were times when Kobe was doing too much and was being a prick, but I don’t remember him putting the team at risk to prove a point. But Phil? He definitely had to prove points at Kobe’s expense, and no one would dare question him except for Kobe, which apparently Phil hated. They had to win Phil’s way. To be fair Phil left Kobe and came back because he knew Kobe was HIM (and Kobe matured too) and he owed it to Kobe. Weird relationship. I’ll never blame Kobe for that Suns series. I blame the Suns more than anything. The Lakers were in over their heads and the Suns woke up. Game 7 was evidence.


The fact Kobe let Phil come back in the first place shows he was 100% about winning. Phil played a lot of bytchass games and kobe went through with it because at the end of the day, he was the best coach. You're right it was a weird relationship, because apparently during Phil's 2nd stint, he and Kobe had breakfast together often because they simply were the first two people to report to work every day. When Phil stepped into the facility, Kobe was getting his AM workout done.

Ultimately Phil always had this thing of using unconventional ways to motivate players, and be definitely had his succinct way of dealing with Kobe. shyt Pau too, Phil stayed calling him soft basically.


One thing about those 06 and 07 L's, about 6-7 players on those teams ended up being on the title teams too. So we really got to see Kobe, Phil and those role players build into something just in time for Pau's arrival.
 

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Knew that the Lakers would’ve gotten smoked by the the spurs or mavs in any event :yeshrug:
 

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It’s actually the very opposite of organic. Which is why you and his stans continue to bring him up everyday, shyt on players who’ve surpassed him, and insert him into conversations where he does not belong. It comes off very desperate, as though repeating the same things over and over again will make it true.

Let me explain how propaganda actually works.

Player A is characterized as a “killer” and the guy you want taking the last shot. But his career clutch shooting percentages are terrible especially in the playoffs. He has exactly 1 career playoff game winner.

Player B is characterized as a choker with no killer instinct but he shoots a significantly higher percentage in clutch time and is the all time leader in playoff game winners. He has 4 buzzer beaters and one go ahead bucket.

Can you guess who is who? :troll:

Talking about propaganda when you literally posting some bullshyt :laff: Talking about game winners and buzzer beaters as if thats the only way to measure being a killer or being clutch. Kobe literally took over countless 4th qtrs both in the regular season and playoffs. '

Talking shytting on players when you used to drop by the Lakers thread to go on random rants about Steph:laff::laff:

Talking about bringing him up everyday when professional athletes both former and current constantly bring him up :laff::laff:



Just last week at the draft




buubbububbubbut it's The Coli bringing him up every day :dead:
Once again, Klutch bullshyt at work. Pretending like it's "The Coli" who created Kobe's legacy :laff::laff::laff:
 

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Talking about propaganda when you literally posting some bullshyt :laff: Talking about game winners and buzzer beaters as if thats the only way to measure being a killer or being clutch. Kobe literally took over countless 4th qtrs both in the regular season and playoffs. '

Talking shytting on players when you used to drop by the Lakers thread to go on random rants about Steph:laff::laff:

Talking about bringing him up everyday when professional athletes both former and current constantly bring him up :laff::laff:



Just last week at the draft




buubbububbubbut it's The Coli bringing him up every day :dead:
Once again, Klutch bullshyt at work. Pretending like it's "The Coli" who created Kobe's legacy :laff::laff::laff:

Brother you’ve been in this thread for nearly 6 hours and are about to have a brain aneurysm click clacking at that keyboard so hard. You are literally proving my point. :dead:

You cannot find a single metric that shows Kobe is more of a killer than LeBron.

Playoff game winners? Kobe 1. LeBron 5. All time leader btw.

30+ point playoff games? Kobe 88. LeBron 122.

40+ point playoff games? Kobe 13. LeBron 29.

How about elimination game stats? Is that not the ultimate litmus test of “killer instinct?”

Kobe 22.3p/5.8r/3.5a 9-10 Record :mjlol:
LeBron 33.5p/10.4r/7.5a 13-9 Record

Let’s not forget the improbable 3-1 comeback over a 73 win team (scored 41 in g5 and g6 btw) with one of the greatest killer moments of all time with “the block.”

Ooh let’s also not forget the best of all..LeBron dominated Kobe in their regular season matchups with a 16-6 record against him all time.

There is a reason why when people speak about Kobe’s greatest moments they’re almost always spectacular scoring feats in the regular season. It’s because his actual body of work in the playoffs is unimpressive and forgettable.

Your guy got gifted a free 3 rings playing alongside the most dominant center of all time whom literally any other all time great wing would’ve won with as well. He then proceeded to spend the prime of his career scoring a shyt load of points on mediocre/losing teams barely impacting winning, until he was gifted another great big in Gasol and an underrated but elite supporting cast.

1 MVP in a 20+ year career. 2 FMVPs. One of which you could argue was fugazi because his game 7 performance in the 2010 finals was historically bad and his team carried him to a W. Meanwhile there are folks in here who would argue to the death that Kyrie was the true MVP of the 2016 finals, a series in which LeBron led in every single statistical category. :dead:

I’ve gotten used to you being retarded so this doesn’t shock me. But yes, Kobe has amazing propaganda and everything you post proves my point. There is a narrative painted about him that literally fits LeBron better than it ever did him and yet LeBron is seen as the opposite of clutch and some kind of choker. Stay mad :umad:
 
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People don't remember charles criticized Kobe. Kobe appeared on Inside the NBA and discussed everything

Kobe says he was playing within the gameplan/scheme, and I believe him, but I think its a, two things can be true at once thing. He played within the scheme but he was showing his displeasure with Phil's gameplan by doing so...

They'd already lost two games in a row and were down 15 at halftime after he went for 23 in the first half, so Kobe going for another 23 in the second half wasn't winning this game...

Still, I gotta believe that privately he had to know he could have played harder or better in the second half, or in any of the final 3 games. You up 3-1, you're good enough to win a series, so blowing that lead is more of a demerit than the second half of G7 when he went off in the first half and they were down big anyway...
 

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Brother you’ve been in this thread for nearly 6 hours and are about to have a brain aneurysm click clacking at that keyboard so hard. You are literally proving my point. :dead:

You cannot find a single metric that shows Kobe is more of a killer than LeBron.

Playoff game winners? Kobe 1. LeBron 5. All time leader btw.

30+ point playoff games? Kobe 88. LeBron 122.

40+ point playoff games? Kobe 13. LeBron 29.

How about elimination game stats? Is that not the ultimate litmus test of “killer instinct?”

Kobe 22.3p/5.8r/3.5a 9-10 Record :mjlol:
LeBron 33.5p/10.4r/7.5a 13-9 Record

Let’s not forget the improbable 3-1 comeback over a 73 win team (scored 41 in g5 and g6 btw) with one of the greatest killer moments of all time with “the block.”

There is a reason why when people speak about Kobe’s greatest moments they’re almost always spectacular scoring feats in the regular season. It’s because his actual body of work in the playoffs is unimpressive and forgettable.

Your guy got gifted a free 3 rings playing alongside the most dominant center of all time whom literally any other all time great wing would’ve won with as well. He then proceeded to spend the prime of his career scoring a shyt load of points on mediocre/losing teams barely impacting winning, until he was gifted another great big in Gasol and an underrated but elite supporting cast.

1 MVP in a 20+ year career. 2 FMVPs. One of which you could argue was fugazi because his game 7 performance in the 2010 finals was historically bad and his team carried him to a W. Meanwhile there are folks in here who would argue to the death that Kyrie was the true MVP of the 2016 finals, a series in which LeBron led in every single statistical category. :dead:

I’ve gotten used to you being retarded so this doesn’t shock me. But yes, Kobe has amazing propaganda and everything you post proves my point. There is a narrative painted about him that literally fits LeBron better than it ever did him and yet LeBron is seen as the opposite of clutch and some kind of choker. Stay mad :umad:
Kill yourself @10bandz

:laff:

:umad:
 
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