Adam Silver admits the nba will never have nfl like parity

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How many teams actually draft that well though? Aside from teams who miss the playoffs year after year so they keep getting top picks.


Hard cap would be

Lebron+ 60 mil worth of role players

vs

paul George + 80 mil worth of role players

I think that's a much more competitive setup than what we have now.

Lebron and durant shouldn't have better teammates than paul George. Nba rosters should look like a snake draft if you want parity.

It sounds nice in theory, but that's more than likely not how it would actually go
 

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NBA with parity is boring. Only fans of wack ass small market teams really care about that shyt. The numbers show that fans are most interested in the league when there are super teams running roughshod over everyone else.
 

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It sounds nice in theory, but that's more than likely not how it would actually go

What are you basing this on?

If teams can pay a player as much as they want you won't see teams like:

Westbrook/durant
Cp3/Blake
Lebron/kyrie/love
Klay/steph/draymond


Guys take 2 or 3 million dollar paycuts because they figure they can make that back by winning a ring. Nobody is taking a 10-15 mil paycut in the prime of their career to play with a stacked team

klay Thompson and kyrie would have their own team in a hard cap system
 

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What are you basing this on?

If teams can pay a player as much as they want you won't see teams like:

Westbrook/durant
Cp3/Blake
Lebron/kyrie/love
Klay/steph/draymond


Guys take 2 or 3 million dollar paycuts because they figure they can make that back by winning a ring. Nobody is taking a 10-15 mil paycut in the prime of their career to play with a stacked team

klay Thompson and kyrie would have their own team in a hard cap system

And what makes you so confident that you won't still see stars teamed up?

The NFL has a hard cap, no max contracts and non-guaranteed contracts and we still have several teams with multiple all-pro talents on them that aren't on rookie contracts. The NHL also a hard cap and there's still teams with multiple stars. What makes you think the NBA would be any different?

Like I said, this idea that if you had a hard cap NBA rosters would resemble a fantasy draft on 2K sounds nice in theory, but does not mean that would actually be the reality. Leagues who actually have had hard caps for years don't have rosters like that, I have little reason to believe the NBA's would be that way.
 
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I actually believe we are heading into an era within their next five years where every team will legit be competitive
 

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And what makes you so confident that you won't still see stars teamed up?

The NFL has a hard cap, no max contracts and non-guaranteed contracts and we still have several teams with multiple all-pro talents on them that aren't on rookie contracts. The NHL also a hard cap and there's still teams with multiple stars. What makes you think the NBA would be any different?

Like I said, this idea that if you had a hard cap NBA rosters would resemble a fantasy draft on 2K sounds nice in theory, but does not mean that would actually be the reality. Leagues who actually have had hard caps for years don't have rosters like that, I have little reason to believe the NBA's would be that way.


You cant compare a sport with 22 starters to a sport with 5 starters. Of course the nfl can put multiple stars on a team. Nfl cap is way more flexible in terms of releasing players and restructuring contracts

You might have a team with 2 superstars, theyll just have terrible role players around them


Lebron james+kevin love+kyrie irving isnt realistically happening with a hard cap

Steph /dray/klay/barnes/iggy would have happened, but the team would only be able to stay together for so long
 

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And what makes you so confident that you won't still see stars teamed up?

The NFL has a hard cap, no max contracts and non-guaranteed contracts and we still have several teams with multiple all-pro talents on them that aren't on rookie contracts. The NHL also a hard cap and there's still teams with multiple stars. What makes you think the NBA would be any different?

Like I said, this idea that if you had a hard cap NBA rosters would resemble a fantasy draft on 2K sounds nice in theory, but does not mean that would actually be the reality. Leagues who actually have had hard caps for years don't have rosters like that, I have little reason to believe the NBA's would be that way.

No you can't stack the deck on a nfl roster anymore. The hard cap makes it impossible

Look at some of the all time great teams you had in the 80's and early 90's and compare it to the top teams the past 20 years. Those teams were much more stacked

A hard cap also limits your window to contend. The contenders have about a 3 year window to win a title because after that your team gets dismantled by free agency.

The only possible way to contend for a long period of time anymore is to have a legendary qb i.e. Brady, Manning Rodgers. Those qbs guarantee you a playoff spot every year and A chance to win it all. Without one you have a very small window to stay on top in the nfl
 
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I mean it's not like he's lying.

One player has a much bigger impact in basketball than in any other sport. You can get a hard cap & non-guaranteed contracts and the result will be the same. The teams with the LeBrons, Currys and Durants of the world will be at the top. Nature of the game.

There's a reason why there's only one team in the last 25 years who won a title that didn't have a current, former or future MVP in their starting lineup
pistons? damn
 

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as far as parity...while ppl are saying that it basically "is what it is"

as somebody who was a warriors fan during the Mike Dunleavy days I can say its not impossible. The Warriors had a history of losing. Cleveland before Lebron was drafted is a loser of a franchise somewhat. And there are many other similar teams. It really just takes astuteness, patience and a luck at the right time.
 

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as far as parity...while ppl are saying that it basically "is what it is"

as somebody who was a warriors fan during the Mike Dunleavy days I can say its not impossible. The Warriors had a history of losing. Cleveland before Lebron was drafted is a loser of a franchise somewhat. And there are many other similar teams. It really just takes astuteness, patience and a luck at the right time.
The Warriors were bad because they were inept. Them being in the Bay Area was NOT a contributing factor.
 

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You cant compare a sport with 22 starters to a sport with 5 starters. Of course the nfl can put multiple stars on a team. Nfl cap is way more flexible in terms of releasing players and restructuring contracts

You might have a team with 2 superstars, theyll just have terrible role players around them


Lebron james+kevin love+kyrie irving isnt realistically happening with a hard cap

Steph /dray/klay/barnes/iggy would have happened, but the team would only be able to stay together for so long

NFL rosters also don't resemble what they would look like in a fantasy snake draft, was my point. And neither does the NHL. And those are both leagues that have had hard caps for years.

Maybe they couldn't fit their Big 3's without them all taking paycuts, but I guarantee the teams that had the LeBrons & Currys would still be the best teams and those are the teams who would still win championships, just like they are with the current rules :yeshrug:

The only possible way to contend for a long period of time anymore is to have a legendary qb i.e. Brady, Manning Rodgers. Those qbs guarantee you a playoff spot every year. Without one you have a very small window to stay on top in the nfl

And what do you think having a LeBron James, Steph Curry, Kevin Durant or Kobe Bryant will allow you to do in the NBA?

Exactly what I've said all along. The teams who have those guys will be at the top regardless of what salary cap rules you put in place. There's nothing to stop that.
 

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NFL rosters also don't resemble what they would look like in a fantasy snake draft, was my point. And neither does the NHL. And those are both leagues that have had hard caps for years.

Maybe they couldn't fit their Big 3's without them all taking paycuts, but I guarantee the teams that had the LeBrons & Currys would still be the best teams and those are the teams who would still win championships, just like they are with the current rules :yeshrug:



And what do you think having a LeBron James, Steph Curry, Kevin Durant or Kobe Bryant will allow you to do in the NBA?

Exactly what I've said all along. The teams who have those guys will be at the top regardless of what salary cap rules you put in place. There's nothing to stop that.

Oh i agree I think the teams without those players have basically no shot that's why great parity will never be apart of the nba

But I think with a hard cap at least it would be harder to keep those important players around the star.
 

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I agree, that's capitalism at work, but at the same time, without said draft, bad teams probably never get better, never establish themselves, never build any real support, and as a result, never really make any money and might fold. The college draft might be a necessary evil. Any ideas on what could realistically replace it so that the bad teams have a chance to improve still?

The thing is Players want to play and get paid first it's not like They would all go to the "good teams". If you're a young PG prospect out of college you're not gonna sign with the Warriors to be Stephs backup. Same thing with a Jameis Winston in 2015, you're not going to the packers.
 
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