Adam Silver: Age limit top priority

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That's a terrible answer.

If anything, two-years in a professional setting turned a player who was "obviously" not NBA ready into a borderline star.

Lance Stephenson is NOT a good example of the current system hurting the NBA product.

Try again.

Look man I want you to be right I want young players to get paid but I gotta look at it as a fan and as an executive too. Some guys just aren't mature enough to handle the NBA right away.
 

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A real D League would give players an income while the NCAA languishes and refuses to pay players. So of course the D League would be competitive.
they do that now. There's a reason why those players don't just say fukk it and join the LA D-Fenders

Your saying this with the current dleague but if they revamped the system and didn't make it for only struggling players or fringe players it's could be a good tool. I'd see d league teams play if they were a actually developmental system and I could watch promising rookies grow .......but it's not like that . Why are you always giving ownership excuses for their stupidity ? Staying in college for 2 years guarantees no success so why act like it does silver ? :camby: nicca selling wolf tickets

Then what would a minor league be for? :unsure: Sounds like what you want is a two-tiered league and not a minor league.

I don't want an age limit. fukk are you talking about?
 

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Few people watch youth European soccer matches, yet they still commence with the aim of developing players. NBA prospects should be able to choose whether they want to try the D League, the NCAA or international leagues. Age limits shouldn't be imposed just so the NCAA can suck more money out of its slaves. The NBA and NCAA are obviously colluding against the interests of NBA draftees.

They CAN! :snoop:
 

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Why don't we watch the dleague ? It's because it serves no purpose and the players song Make the NBA . We watch the summer league and Vegas games we'd watch a good dleague too . This shouldn't even be a discussion , players have been flopping for years and that's with years of college . But I look at the leagues current top stars and see a bunch of one and done players or in brons case no college . The media should be ashamed of themselves letting silver spill this bull

Because you have ZERO emotional investment in it. You watch Summer League because they have Knicks mesh practice jerseys. You won't show the same love and support for a White Plains D-League squad, not when your heart is gonna be drawn to your college when they're on.
 

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For knowledge:

-The average starting salary in an European league is $65,000. Also, that money is typically tax-free.

-The average D-League salary is $12,000-24,000 a season. (50 games)

-A 10 day NBA contract can net you $50,000 to $60,000

If the NBA would stop being so cheap with the D League, and develop that into a 30 team league (currently 17) with each team having a D League team with starting salaries at $65-70,000 , they could set up a MLB/NHL system, obviously adjusting salaries when called up to the main team. Rule should be just like MLB/NHL too. Either come out after high school, or go to school 2-3 years, your choice. No guarantee that you go straight to the big team, you are in their system at their discretion.

Each NBA franchise has:

-27 players (15 NBA team, 12 D League)
-can call up, send down players when they want

This system would help everyone.
-The NBA (gets to draft players based on "talent", but not forced to have them on main 15 roster at first)
-NCAA (if the kid decides to come to school, they know he is there for 2-3 years)
-D League (can get a decent TV contract to be able to show some of these young cats in NBA type level game, and more fans would come out to these games in these cities
-Players (not forced to go to college at all if they don't want too, and not forced to go to Europe to make decent money) (plus, for cats drafted in 2nd rd, instead of no guarantee contracts, at least they get to earn that $65,000+ while trying to improve and stay in D League/ move up to NBA roster instead of a training camp and out)
 

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Because you have ZERO emotional investment in it. You watch Summer League because they have Knicks mesh practice jerseys. You won't show the same love and support for a White Plains D-League squad, not when your heart is gonna be drawn to your college when they're on.
I don't watch college ball really at all , maybe the tournament . And even that's worn down for me . But you know I did track down the d league games a few years ago to try and see Lin and Jerome Jordan play . I was big advocate for toure Murray getting playing time instead of Felton also instead of wasting away on the bench now we still don't know what he can do for next season . He should of been in the dleague working on running the point not just bench warming .I care about professional basketball and If name guys who teams didn't have playing time for or needed alittle more development time went to the d league id watch. Same way with all the college players who showed some skill in college but aren't thought to be nba level talents could be put there instead of drafting Zimbabwe and Ethiopian guys that will never come to America . They could even have players do some rehab games there after a long stint out injured . The reason I don't watch or support the dleague now is because I have no incentive too , these players won't make it to the nba and the league is treated as such , I wouldn't pay and watch pickup games in the park and that's how dleague is
 

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For knowledge:

-The average starting salary in an European league is $65,000. Also, that money is typically tax-free.

-The average D-League salary is $12,000-24,000 a season. (50 games)

-A 10 day NBA contract can net you $50,000 to $60,000

If the NBA would stop being so cheap with the D League, and develop that into a 30 team league (currently 17) with each team having a D League team with starting salaries at $65-70,000 , they could set up a MLB/NHL system, obviously adjusting salaries when called up to the main team. Rule should be just like MLB/NHL too. Either come out after high school, or go to school 2-3 years, your choice. No guarantee that you go straight to the big team, you are in their system at their discretion.

Each NBA franchise has:

-27 players (15 NBA team, 12 D League)
-can call up, send down players when they want

This system would help everyone.
-The NBA (gets to draft players based on "talent", but not forced to have them on main 15 roster at first)
-NCAA (if the kid decides to come to school, they know he is there for 2-3 years)
-D League (can get a decent TV contract to be able to show some of these young cats in NBA type level game, and more fans would come out to these games in these cities
-Players (not forced to go to college at all if they don't want too, and not forced to go to Europe to make decent money) (plus, for cats drafted in 2nd rd, instead of no guarantee contracts, at least they get to earn that $65,000+ while trying to improve and stay in D League/ move up to NBA roster instead of a training camp and out)

I can make room in my schedule for 10 days
 

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For knowledge:

-The average starting salary in an European league is $65,000. Also, that money is typically tax-free.

-The average D-League salary is $12,000-24,000 a season. (50 games)

-A 10 day NBA contract can net you $50,000 to $60,000

If the NBA would stop being so cheap with the D League, and develop that into a 30 team league (currently 17) with each team having a D League team with starting salaries at $65-70,000 , they could set up a MLB/NHL system, obviously adjusting salaries when called up to the main team. Rule should be just like MLB/NHL too. Either come out after high school, or go to school 2-3 years, your choice. No guarantee that you go straight to the big team, you are in their system at their discretion.

MLB doesn't subject international players to the draft. Not sure you want that for the NBA.
Each NBA franchise has:

-27 players (15 NBA team, 12 D League)
-can call up, send down players when they want

This is a big problem because the teams that have no incentive to develop players will treat it as having 27 roster spots. When they get called up, how does it affect the cap? if it didn't, the Lakers would trade for every godawful albatross contract on Earth and just stash them there with no penalty.'

-D League (can get a decent TV contract to be able to show some of these young cats in NBA type level game, and more fans would come out to these games in these cities

This is already in place. Y'all just don't care, and you know how you'll care even less? The teams are gonna be playing all over buttfukk towns in America. It's not like you'll have these affiliates playing in the same town as the big league team. Other than the D-Fenders, they're scattered all over, just like in MLB and the NHL. Why? To offer that product to smaller towns who may grow to like those teams. For the amount of time that the D-League has been around, that embrace and support hasn't been there. Those games get played in mostly empty gyms.
 

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They CAN! :snoop:
But your generally viewed as a failure if you go other routes besides being a highly touted college player .
they do that now. There's a reason why those players don't just say fukk it and join the LA D-Fenders



Then what would a minor league be for? :unsure: Sounds like what you want is a two-tiered league and not a minor league.

I don't want an age limit. fukk are you talking about?
No I want a minor leagues not whatever the dleague is. It's full of the kind of players I described who won't ever make the nba it's not used to develop players to bring to the nba . How many dleague players ever make it to a nba roster and if they do then have a successful career ? It's viewed as negative if you aren't automatically a allstar once you step into the nba . The other Option is for teams to not draft prospects anymore and focus on multiyear players guys would stay in longer .
 

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MLB doesn't subject international players to the draft. Not sure you want that for the NBA.


This is a big problem because the teams that have no incentive to develop players will treat it as having 27 roster spots. When they get called up, how does it affect the cap? if it didn't, the Lakers would trade for every godawful albatross contract on Earth and just stash them there with no penalty.'



This is already in place. Y'all just don't care, and you know how you'll care even less? The teams are gonna be playing all over buttfukk towns in America. It's not like you'll have these affiliates playing in the same town as the big league team. Other than the D-Fenders, they're scattered all over, just like in MLB and the NHL. Why? To offer that product to smaller towns who may grow to like those teams. For the amount of time that the D-League has been around, that embrace and support hasn't been there. Those games get played in mostly empty gyms.


1. True, MLB doesnt force int'l players in the draft. They have to wait until 19 as well right now. With the change, they go into the draft straight after high school as well, so they are treated the same as US college players in that regard.

2. Not a problem at all with the development. This can be done 2 ways. Either a big cap in total for all 27 players, and pay is prorated/changed when you are playing D League games, etc. This part is a very minor blip in radar of the whole deal, and can be worked on in detail once the big plan is in place.

3. Whoa there, Tonto. What D League games are on national TV right now. I know there are a few playoff games on CBS Sports Network right now, and i may have seen a game here and there during the season. I am saying there is no local sports network carrying games on the regular (N. Carolina area) cause there are no teams here anywhere close for us to care. Closest team to this area is Delaware to the north, and Texas to the west. There are 5-6 NBA teams in the southeast and no D League teams anywhere close to them. Why would the whole southeast care about the league? Have each NBA team house a D League team close to them, and air 10-20 games on local sports networks to bring the league some love.
 

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Mean while you can get drafted in the 10th grade in baseball :facepalm:

LMAO, no you can't

International players can be signed at 16, but any HS kid has to complete HS before he can enter the MLB draft.

HS kids have the option, even after being drafted, of going to college.

The basic categories of players eligible to be drafted are:
  • High school players, if they have graduated from high school and have not yet attended college or junior college;
  • College players, from four-year colleges who have either completed their junior or senior years or are at least 21 years old; and
  • Junior college players, regardless of how many years of school they have completed
I think it would be interesting to see the NBA/NCAA move towards this kind of a model. HS kids can enter the draft, but if you go to school you go for at least 2 years.

I don't think the "return to school" option, given a 2-round draft and no real developmental league. At least not for anyone drafted. If a kid declares and goes undrafted though, let em back in...assuming they haven't fukked off their eligibility by that point.
 

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LMAO, no you can't

International players can be signed at 16, but any HS kid has to complete HS before he can enter the MLB draft.

HS kids have the option, even after being drafted, of going to college.

The basic categories of players eligible to be drafted are:
  • High school players, if they have graduated from high school and have not yet attended college or junior college;
  • College players, from four-year colleges who have either completed their junior or senior years or are at least 21 years old; and
  • Junior college players, regardless of how many years of school they have completed
I think it would be interesting to see the NBA/NCAA move towards this kind of a model. HS kids can enter the draft, but if you go to school you go for at least 2 years.

I don't think the "return to school" option, given a 2-round draft and no real developmental league. At least not for anyone drafted. If a kid declares and goes undrafted though, let em back in...assuming they haven't fukked off their eligibility by that point.
:ohhh: When I was in high school there were pro teams looking at this kid who pitched...He was in the 10 or 11th grade. I thought they were there to sign him
 
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