Adam Silver Defends NBA's Second Apron Era Amid Player Criticism

[Rekkapryde]

Can't promote ring culture if most stars only get one ring at most

Good thing. Maybe cats can start appreciating the talent again. But teams shouldn't be penalized for keeping their home grown/drafted talent. Owners and players got so scared of the Warriors that they went overboard with the apron shyt.

 

[FTBS]

The 2nd apron was instituted two years ago. The overwhelming majority of the recent parity we have seen happened before it.

I am sure the desire to keep those that cant pay (or are too cheap and focused on profit over competition) as much from being disadvantaged and those that can pay (or actually want to compete) from having too much of advantage will also be applied to the pricing of tickets, concessions, merchandise, and media packages for fans right Adam?

 

[tremonthustler1]

There are no salary caps in the MLB

because the players' union are willing to die on that hill, especially when owners get advantages in other aspects.

They do however have their version of aprons which you have teams like the Dodgers and Mets not caring or being able to circumvent some stuff on it and then you have teams like the Yankees who will do whatever not to cross certain payroll limits and then you have teams like Pittsburgh and the A's who basically have all but told everyone they have no interest in winning; they just wanna collect revenue sharing checks.

 

[Rekkapryde]

The 2nd apron was instituted two years ago. The overwhelming majority of the recent parity we have seen happened before it.

I am sure the desire to keep those that cant pay (or are too cheap and focused on profit over competition) as much from being disadvantaged and those that can pay (or actually want to compete) from having too much of advantage will also be applied to the pricing of tickets, concessions, merchandise, and media packages for fans right Adam?

the 2nd apron penalties are so absurd tho.

Before trading Zingis and Jrue, the Celtics payroll was like 230 mill or something like that. They would've had like 300 million additionally in 2nd apron penalties. That's WAY overboard.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

The baseball union is the most powerful union in sports

You would think with guaranteed contracts that the NBA players would have more backbone but they don't

They not willing to go to the mattresses to fight for shyt that will only benefit the players that come after them..

The NFL will never have it. The careers are too short they will never be unified and get guaranteed contracts. They can't even get free lifetime healthcare which is terrible

 

[tremonthustler1]

I think Silver wants to make the NBA like the NFL

He sees that the NFL is King and crafted this CBA to have more parity in the NBA but it's two different sports

I understand the thought process but this CBA is way too restrictive. There's too many little dumb ass rules you can't do this you can't do that

The dumb ass owners panicked when KD went to the Warriors and totally overreacted to that shyt. The factors that allowed the Warriors to have the space to sign KD are once in a lifetime weird shyt that probably won't happen again. The only reason the Warriors had space was because of the low contract they gave Steph due to his bad ankles.

That shyt will never be replicated

They overreacted like some whiny ass goofs so now we have this terrible CBA that basically has killed NBA Free agency

The NBA just signed a $78 billion media rights deal there should be no teams crying broke with revenue sharing

the NFL's cap would be restrictive as fukk too if every salary was guaranteed.


What owners didn't want was Golden State having a payroll 2, 3x larger than everyone else's because they were sitting on a money tree most others didn't have; therefore it would look like they were operating on a completely different salary cap than everyone else's.

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

because the players' union are willing to die on that hill, especially when owners get advantages in other aspects.

They do however have their version of aprons which you have teams like the Dodgers and Mets not caring or being able to circumvent some stuff on it and then you have teams like the Yankees who will do whatever not to cross certain payroll limits and then you have teams like Pittsburgh and the A's who basically have all but told everyone they have no interest in winning; they just wanna collect revenue sharing checks.

Yes, this proves my point. You can have no cap in the NBA and the league will not die or become extremely unpopular, or have only 1 team winning

 

[number21]

I like it. It brings the parity that so many dikk rides the nfl for

 

[Joe Sixpack]

the NFL's cap would be restrictive as fukk too if every salary was guaranteed.


What owners didn't want was Golden State having a payroll 2, 3x larger than everyone else's because they were sitting on a money tree most others didn't have; therefore it would look like they were operating on a completely different salary cap than everyone else's.

Ok well they need to tweak this shyt

If you draft a player and he is as good as you thought he would be and you resign him to a 2nd contract the total value of that contract shouldn't go against the cap

Teams should not be penalized for scouting the right players and resigning them

 

[tremonthustler1]

The baseball union is the most powerful union in sports

You would think with guaranteed contracts that the NBA players would have more backbone but they don't

They not willing to go to the mattresses to fight for shyt that will only benefit the players that come after them..

The NFL will never have it. The careers are too short they will never be unified and get guaranteed contracts. They can't even get free lifetime healthcare which is terrible that cant get that

Well put it this way:

You're SGA. You just got the highest AAV in sports. Why would I risk taking a season off to fight for a guy who isn't a fraction as good as me to get money he probably doesn't deserve?

The top 1% of the NBA's interests are completely different from the rank and file. It's why it's so much better to have the Fred Van Vleet's of the league and Grant Williams' be the main voices at the negotiating table and not LeBron.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

NBA fans never really wanted parity tho


Can't promote ring culture if most stars only get one ring at most

Indiana is not a free agent destination yet they always field a competitive team.. The onus is on their scouting department.

Alot a these teams are ass and do dumb shyt

Why should everyone else be punished?

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

the 2nd apron penalties are so absurd tho.

Before trading Zingis and Jrue, the Celtics payroll was like 230 mill or something like that. They would've had like 300 million additionally in 2nd apron penalties. That's WAY overboard.

They're penalties on the owners. Why do you fukking care what they have to pay to break the rules the league and union agreed to?

 

[Rekkapryde]

The baseball union is the most powerful union in sports

You would think with guaranteed contracts that the NBA players would have more backbone but they don't

They not willing to go to the mattresses to fight for shyt that will only benefit the players that come after them..

The NFL will never have it. The careers are too short they will never be unified and get guaranteed contracts. They can't even get free lifetime healthcare which is terrible

Baseball union isn't nearly as powerful as they used to be. That died with the steroid era and people turned on them too.

 

[Rekkapryde]

They're penalties on the owners. Why do you fukking care what they have to pay to break the rules the league and union agreed?

Fully aware of this.

Teams were willing to spend more going over the cap when the penalties weren't nearly as bad which was good for the players. Now? Not so much.

 

[RickyGQ]

The 2nd apron was instituted two years ago. The overwhelming majority of the recent parity we have seen happened before it.

I am sure the desire to keep those that cant pay (or are too cheap and focused on profit over competition) as much from being disadvantaged and those that can pay (or actually want to compete) from having too much of advantage will also be applied to the pricing of tickets, concessions, merchandise, and media packages for fans right Adam?

Came to say this. The ramifications of the 2nd apron are JUST now beginning to be felt.