Adele's album 21 just went DIAMOND!

[Greenstrings]

Man. Miss me with all that shyt. I'm suck of people saying this. Find me a young black singer that caters to both the teens and adults. The young ones are too busy trying to do 4 on the floor and mix in some slow stuff.

Find me an album from a young black R&B dude with the cohesiveness of her album. And by the way the music has to be exceptional too

I'm black by the way.

First off I'm happy for any artist that can buck a trend and sell a ton in this day and age, but 21 was not exceptional and cohesion doesn't have much bearing on how good/successful an album turns out to be, but lets put that aside for a sec.

Adele benefited from being the perfect alignment of a number of things that came together at exactly the right time. From the tapping of a potent buying market (Non internet-savvy 25-40+ females; the teenage/young adult demographic aren't responsible for her sales.) that label heads thought had all but disappeared and had stopped plugging for, to the dominance of hyper stylised artists like Gaga and Katy Perry to play her 'authenticity' against and a host of others etc.

It would be daft to assume that an albums sales are a direct reflection of its quality, especially in comparison to what else is being made within that field and while I could point to a number of R&B albums released in 2011 that I think were better, there would be no point going through the trouble of pointing them out if we weren't at least agreed on that point.

 

[jadillac]

Start naming albums better than 21

(I ain't even saying they don't exist, I just wanna check them out, cos 21 is a great album)

I'm not saying her album is bad. I'm not saying it's not worthy of going diamond. But most black R&B acts, male or female, cant even sell Gold these days.

However good her album is is not THAT good to be diamond while everyone else toils to reach gold OR to even get a release date

 

[Capitol]

Privileged in relation to people who grew up to a crackhead yes, but to the average western world person she's not very privileged.


Adele is a great singer, one of the best out. But the album was a 3.5 mic album maybe 4 mics on a good day, the first album was better. Not close to Channel Orange though as far as soul music goes.

21 was waaaaay better than 19

 

[Capitol]

Now can we get Janelle Monae to go Diamond?

Real shyt. Her album was a problem and she needs to be pushed way better than what she is right now

 

[Harry B]

21 was waaaaay better than 19

I fukks with 19 a lot more cause its a lot more soul and a lot less rock/pop.
And maybe I'm a bit biased cause she became such a commercial success. While when I had 19 on repeat it wasn't even released in the states idk.

But imo she's in her best form when she has that indie soul, over the adult contemporary sound. Both albums are still great though.

 

[BIGDENNIS10UK]

I'm not saying her album is bad. I'm not saying it's not worthy of going diamond. But most black R&B acts, male or female, cant even sell Gold these days.

However good her album is is not THAT good to be diamond while everyone else toils to reach gold OR to even get a release date

Chasing pavement and set fire to the rain sold that slbum like a motherfukker.

I respect her, no gimmicks and she killed it live in the royal Albert hall, she ain't even got looks to fall on.

Nothing to sell except good music And she made it, brehs....the fat fukk made it .......

*tears up*

 

[Red]

Chasing pavement and set fire to the rain sold that slbum like a motherfukker.

I respect her, no gimmicks and she killed it live in the royal Albert hall, she ain't even got looks to fall on.

Nothing to sell except good music And she made it, brehs....the fat fukk made it .......

*tears up*

I dunno... I'd smash. Probably too

 

[thernbroom]

The Weeknd about to do the same numbers

 

[YBE]

what about all the black singers with the same and/or more talent that cant even go gold?

i respect her voice but f**k all that other chit.

@ anybody that has a problem with what im saying.

Said the same shyt when she came out...

whites always act towards shyt when blacks do it, then call it "groundbreaking" when it comes in white skin

If Adele was a black chick, she'd be with Kelly Price & all the other fat bytches sitting in the corner in artist development hell Same shyt with Eminem & Nas. Em wasn't any better technically/lyrically than Nas, in fact, Em's content seems shallow as fukk compared to Nas but, he sold 12, 11 million somethin records twice while Nas would have a fukkin coronary if he ever saw them kinds of numbers

 

[StatUS]

Said the same shyt when she came out...

whites always act towards shyt when blacks do it, then call it "groundbreaking" when it comes in white skin

If Adele was a black chick, she'd be with Kelly Price & all the other fat bytches sitting in the corner in artist development hell Same shyt with Eminem & Nas. Em wasn't any better technically/lyrically than Nas, in fact, Em's content seems shallow as fukk compared to Nas but, he sold 12, 11 million somethin records twice while Nas would have a fukkin coronary if he ever saw them kinds of numbers

She's not Kelly Price though. She's a pop singer which opens her up to a larger audience. And Em does way more pop music than Nas also.

I don't see the point in discrediting Adele for what she did because some similar talents didn't do as well. If you go diamond in any era that means you're above all that. It's not like she's Katy Perry or something. Homegirl is mad talented.

 

[Tetris v2.0]

Good for Adele. Her race and look helped her, but its not the be-all-end-all for her. She had a story, and the songs were clever and relatable without relying on tired RnB/Soul cliche.

The production was also really well done and anthemic. Maybe if others had that same big band James Bond sound, they could do similar. Kelly Price (or generic RnB female) does not have the same quality and effort put into their shyt and its apparent if you actually listen to it.

I tip my hat (and my penis) to the lil British PAWG for having talent, not having to act like a total slore, and writing her own shyt

 

[TopKat]

'dele gettin that work

I can't hate

She's special, makes great music and I'd still fukk her

 

[YBE]

She's not Kelly Price though. She's a pop singer which opens her up to a larger audience. And Em does way more pop music than Nas also.

I don't see the point in discrediting Adele for what she did because some similar talents didn't do as well. If you go diamond in any era that means you're above all that. It's not like she's Katy Perry or something. Homegirl is mad talented.

Im saying if she was black, that's who'd she be.

When I start seeing some black Susan Boyles or black Adeles selling 10 million records, cool. Until then, fukk outta here.

 

[StatUS]

Im saying if she was black, that's who'd she be.

When I start seeing some black Susan Boyles or black Adeles selling 10 million records, cool. Until then, fukk outta here.

Yeah I got that. I also said that she's a pop singer which broadens her base more than an R&B singer like Kelly Price who has platinum records to her name. Pop sells. Ask Usher and Mariah.

 

[tremonthustler1]

come on bruh.

R&B music is stocked full of talented black female singers and they can't even go Gold.

Granted, Adele is a good writer I assume and her songs are from a more unique perspective than typical R&B, BUT let's not pretend the main appeal in her moving that many records is that shes white.

So why didn't Leona Lewis sell? She went from a #1 hit and being compared to Mariah Carey to having an album not good enough to drop in this country. It's not because she's white.

Are there talented black female singers? Of course.

None of em had a Rollin In The Deep, and even if they had a song in their arsenal that was on that level (I'd love for people to start naming them), would we care? (Not they, we?)