Admit it...what actually kills us about slavery is...

[Dzali OG]

Exactly. And this is the same problem our rebelious ancestors faced. Too few willing to fight against the injustices done to them by their enemies and too many willing to accept things to avoid personal discomforts.

This is the same problem our ancestors who wanted to fight the devils faced. It's hard being the only one of many willing to take a stand. It's hard being only the few of many willing to do fight. Especially when you are already disadvantaged numerically and weapons wise.

So yea, i feel you questioning how they could sit back and let the shyt you described go down but all you have to do is look around to how most "negroes" accept shyt today to understand why they did.

I can see it now, thoroughly nikkas were ready to get it popping and the fukk nikkas was like "Hold up fam...I got a wife and kids"...While massa and his drinking buddies was running train on his wife AND kids...pass spit at them nikkas.

 

[karim]

Yep. But according these simple minded fools we should think of our families and accept daily humiliations.

if the us would put it's mind onto enslaving afghans, they would be slaves. how many of them were rotting away in guantanamo and what could they do about it? afghans are treated like fukking slaves in iran and they can't do shyt about it. arabs enslave pakistanis and treat them like they are not human beings and these people still go to dubai to work on their construction sites. it's not only black people. understand how the world works before you talk tough.

 

[marcuz]

no, but you can't blame us for the situation we are in, and you can't blame our ancestors for being enslaved.

well, who do we hold accountable for the integration movement? i think we would have been alright if we didn't choose to join whites socially. i'm cool with the idea of getting your money and bringing it back to the black community. but our people abandoned their structure to join what white folks had, and it's kind of biting us in the ass.

 

[Dzali OG]

no, but you can't blame us for the situation we are in, and you can't blame our ancestors for being enslaved.

I can blame them for not fighting hard though.

 

[karim]

When did I "blame" our ancestors for being slaves?

the op did and i was replying to him that the one country were slaves went and smashed massas skull was made an example of to this day.

 

[Dzali OG]

if the us would put it's mind onto enslaving afghans, they would be slaves. how many of them were rotting away in guantanamo and what could they do about it? afghans are treated like fukking slaves in iran and they can't do shyt about it. arabs enslave pakistanis and treat them like they are not human beings and these people still go to dubai to work on their construction sites. it's not only black people. understand how the world works before you talk tough.

Brush we would have to kill every man over there to slave them.

 

[Dzali OG]

the op did and i was replying to him that the one country were slaves went and smashed massas skull was made an example of to this day.

And as black people we should all make that country our capitol, support and help build it up.

 

[karim]

Brush we would have to kill every man over there to slave them.

why don't the iranians have to kill every man to enslave them then?

 

[Ego Noir]

Alot of em did stand up , got on some real nikka shyt, and died. That's admirable and in most cases honorable.

But I don't think it was cowardly of the ones who kept their head down and endured the worst for the sake of being there for there family.

My point is its a little to comfortable for you or I to stand in judgement of these men while we communicate our freedom of expression and opinion to eachother via the Internet, things those men died for in hopes that one day we could

I'm not standing in judgement.

I am making the successful rebellion of Haitian slaves stand in judgement.

They did it, so stop it with that 'it was hard' shyt. Even when they had no example, they did it.

 

[Ego Noir]

These people are basic thinkers.ignore them. If the slaves were constantly rebelling and killing the masters or through terrorist activities they would've thought twice about bringing in more slaves, but as they saw them as meek and not likely to cause trouble it increased tenfold.

Quoted for emphasis. A violent rebellious slave they say forget all that shyt, they would look for a docile people to enslave.

There's a reason why America drops the hammer on that terrorist shyt. There's a reason why they dropped a hammer on that Black Panther shyt.

Cause that's how you overthrow a government. Violent coup d'état. Not that MLK 'we shall overcomeee' passive bullshyt.

 

[karim]

Quoted for emphasis. A violent rebellious slave they say forget all that shyt, they would look for a docile people to enslave.

There's a reason why America drops the hammer on that terrorist shyt. There's a reason why they dropped a hammer on that Black Panther shyt.

Cause that's how you overthrow a government. Violent coup d'état. Not that MLK 'we shall overcomeee' passive bullshyt.

and what exactly do you achieve by getting a hammer dropped on you?

 

[Dzali OG]

why don't the iranians have to kill every man to enslave them then?

Breh Iran hasn't slaved them. They face discrimination but they aren't slaves.

 

[karim]

Breh Iran hasn't slaved them. They face discrimination but they aren't slaves.

they are treated like shyt, why don't they fight back?

 

[JasonSJackson]

I can see it now, thoroughly nikkas were ready to get it popping and the fukk nikkas was like "Hold up fam...I got a wife and kids"...While massa and his drinking buddies was running train on his wife AND kids...pass spit at them nikkas.

One of the fukk nikkas in here posted a link that had a quote from the Muqaddimah which he was using to justify the white mans barbarity to our people. I'm reading the Muqaddimah right now to get the context of that quote and shut that dumb shyt he's talking down. While reading it, I came across this

"
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Meekness and docility to outsiders that may come to be found in a tribe are obstacles on the way toward royal authority.

The reason for this is that meekness and docility break the vigor and strength of group feeling. The (very fact) that people are meek and docile shows that(their group feeling) is lost. They do not become fond of meekness until they are too weak to defend themselves. Those who are too weak to defend themselves are all the more weak when it comes to withstanding their enemies and pressing their claims.

The Israelites are a good example. Moses urged them to go and become rulers of Syria. He informed them that God had made this their destiny. But the Israelites were too weak for that. They said: "There are giants in that country, and we shall not enter it until the giants have departed."
That is, until God has driven themout by manifesting His power, without the application of our group feeling, and that will be one of your miracles, O Moses. And when Moses urged them on, they persisted and became rebellious, and said: "Go you yourself and your Lord, and fight."


The reason for (their attitude) was that they had become used to being too weak to offer opposition and to press claims.
(That is the meaning) required by the verse, and it must be interpreted in that manner. (This situation) was the result of the quality of docility and the longing to be subservient to the Egyptians, which the Israelites had acquired through many long years and which led eventually to the complete loss of their group feeling. In addition, they did not really believe what Moses told them, namely, that Syria would be theirs and that the Amalekites who were in Jericho would fall prey to them, by virtue of the divine decree that God had made in favor of the Israelites. They were unable to do (what they were asked to do)and felt too weak to do it. They realized that they were too weak to press any claims, because they had acquired the quality of meekness. They suspected the story their prophet told them and the command he gave them. For that, God punished them by obliging them to remain in the desert. They stayed in the desert between Syria and Egypt for forty years. They had no contact with civilization nor did they settle in any city, as it is told in the Qur'an.This was because of the harshness the Amalekites in Syria and the Copts in Egypt had practiced against them. Thus,they thought themselves too weak to oppose them. From the context and meaning of the verse, it is evident that (the verse) intends to refer to the implication of such a sojourn in the desert, namely, the disappearance of the generation whose character had been formed and whose group feeling had been destroyed by the humiliation,oppression, and force from which it had (just) escaped, and the eventual appearance in the desert of another powerful generation that knew neither laws nor oppression and did not have the stigma of meekness. Thus, a new group feeling could grow up(in the new generation), and that (new group feeling) enabled them to press their claims and to achieve superiority. This makes it evident that forty years is the shortest period in which one generation can disappear and a new generation can arise. Praised be the Wise, the Knowing One."

it seems to me to speak directly to what's being discussed in this thread.

 

[Dzali OG]

and what exactly do you achieve by getting a hammer dropped on you?

You achieve the same as hitting a bully back. You may not win the fight but you let them know they will have a problem if they bring that bully business about.