“ADOS/FBA DON’T value EDUCATION. IMMIGRANTS DO!!! and put MORE WORK into JOBS because they have a CULTURE of HARD WORK”

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When you have a major American political party whose main tenets are banning history books, books on slavery, jim crow, racism because they are ''woke'' and make white people feel guilty, who deliberately try to reduce black voting districts and representation in congress, who are against affirmative action or any specific policy to help black people advance in society then forgive me if i wont take my eyes of the price and get distracted with these tribal and ethnic strife.
Its obviously not accurate about the culture of hard work myth, when black americans where educated in HBCUS , black private schools and literally built the whitehouse with free slave labor, but eyes on the ball, eyes on the main barrier to black american progress in society which is the republican party
 

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People are still pushing this bullshyt narrative in 2023?

Bullshyt narrative is being polite. It is actually a fugging lie. People are always talking shyt, but they don't research anything. They constantly do apples to oranges comparisons to make a point, when if they would just do apples to apples comparison they would get a truer answer.

This report details education in Nigeria as of 2018. Read point number 8. There are only 1.7 bachelor degree students in Nigeria in a county of 230+ million people who supposedly value education:

Nigerian universities have 1.7 million Bachelor’s degree students.




Now read this report. In the USA where ADOS/FBA don't even make up 50 million people in the USA; the ADOS/FDA undergraduate enrollment declined from 2.67 million students to 1.99 million students. Based strictly upon population size ADOS/FBA attend college more than Nigerians not only in raw numbers, but in percentage of the population. So clearly ADOS/FBA don't value education. What people are doing is comparing immigrants that come to the USA for education against a whole group of existing citizens. Nobody would compare a bunch of educated African Americans who went to Nigeria against the Nigerian population, but they have no problem doing the opposite.

Black Students in Higher Education Factsheet Primer

According to the Census’ American Community Survey, in 2021 12% of the total U.S. population identified as Black or African American. Among Black residents aged 25 or over, 22.6% had earned a bachelor’s degree or higher. This rate is up from 17.9% in 2010, but falls short of the national rate of 32.9%.

ENROLLMENT​

  • In Fall 2020, Black students made up 12.5% of all postsecondary enrollment.
  • In 2020, 36% of the 18–24-year-old Black population were enrolled in college compared to 40% of the overall U.S. population.
  • Since Fall 2010, Black student enrollment has declined from 3.04 million to 2.38 million, a 22% decrease:
    • Undergraduate enrollment declined from 2.67 million to 1.99 million, a 25% decrease
    • Despite the overall enrollment decline, graduate enrollment for Black students increased from 361,900 to 383,900, a 6% increase
  • Black students are much more likely to attend public versus private institutions of higher education.
    • In Fall 2020, 67% of Black students attended public institutions:
      • 42% attended public four-year institutions
      • 28% attended public two-year institutions
  • Nearly 76% of the Fall 2020 enrollment at Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCU) were Black students

 

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Bullshyt narrative is being polite. It is actually a fugging lie. People are always talking shyt, but they don't research anything. They constantly do apples to oranges comparisons to make a point, when if they would just do apples to apples comparison they would get a truer answer.

This report details education in Nigeria as of 2018. Read point number 8. There are only 1.7 bachelor degree students in Nigeria in a county of 230+ million people who supposedly value education:

Doesn't really match up because the US is much more developed and Nigeria passed a law allowing student loans this year. Imagine the numbers of African American students going to school if you had to pay upfront or if cac donors and churches didn't help fund/start many hbcus. Don't be manipulated by his bullshyt propaganda, Black people value education worldwide.
 

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Doesn't really match up because the US is much more developed and Nigeria passed a law allowing student loans this year. Imagine the numbers of African American students going to school if you had to pay upfront or if cac donors and churches didn't help fund/start many hbcus. Don't be manipulated by his bullshyt propaganda, Black people value education worldwide.
Another lie. Most HBCUs were built out of Black Churches by former slaves, specifically from Black Methodist and Baptist churches that didn't even have connections to White denominations. So not not every HBCU was created by a philanthropist. Even some of the State run HBCUs were created by Black people and churches, but they were appropriated by the States during "separate but equal" bullshyt time period.

Second of all Black people couldn't even get home loans or consumer loans so you know dam well that we weren't getting student loans until just recent times.
 

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I used to have the same skewed viewpoint, till I saw the bigger picture.

I speak from a Caribbean perspective.

We didnt have to continue to live with our oppressors :yeshrug: . Once I saw that viewpoint, it was clear ADOS/FBA lived with and continue to live with a level of trauma I can't relate to.

I give props and refuse to speak down on anyone.

Immigrants come to America with a different mindset, but everything most think they seeing is not as black and white (no pun intended) as it seems.
 

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I used to have the same skewed viewpoint, till I saw the bigger picture.

I speak from a Caribbean perspective.

We didnt have to continue to live with our oppressors :yeshrug: . Once I saw that viewpoint, it was clear ADOS/FBA lived with and continue to live with a level of trauma I can't relate to.

I give props and refuse to speak down on anyone.

Immigrants come to America with a different mindset, but everything most think they seeing is not as black and white (no pun intended) as it seems.
They come to America with the mindset that they can achieve here because they see people that achieve here. Nothing is wrong with that mindset. It is the right one to have. I am mystified as to how they think they came here, because it damn sure wasn't because White people like their Black asses, because they don't. Modern immigrants from Black, yellow and brown countries are here because of the Civil Rights Act that Black Americans fought so hard for. Before that Act they only let White people immigrate to the USA.
 

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Another lie. Most HBCUs were built out of Black Churches by former slaves, specifically from Black Methodist and Baptist churches that didn't even have connections to White denominations. So not not every HBCU was created by a philanthropist. Even some of the State run HBCUs were created by Black people and churches, but they were appropriated by the States during "separate but equal" bullshyt time period.

Second of all Black people couldn't even get home loans or consumer loans so you know dam well that we weren't getting student loans until just recent times.

I didn't say most, I said many. It's common for hbcus to have white founders/funding, I didn't mean to lie, just what I thought was true based on what I've read.


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