#ADOS is a tiny divisive movement

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Shut up. until you prove your lies, i'll call you a fukking moron whenever i please. Disingenous c00ns like yourself don't deserve respect. :pacspit:

Your momma :smile:

Hilarious coming from someone like you. Again, stop disrespecting my ancestors by using words that were created for you and yours. :smile:

Good night!

P.S.: Read a book ugly! And I posted sources. As I always do.
 

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Where were the majority or the most important chapters of the UNIA located?

New York, D.C and other countries.

I do want to mention GA though. With the help of some of his ADOS followers - he had like 600-1200 members there.

Again, respect to Mr. Garvey -- I just want to put things in the correct perspective to Black America during that time.
 
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The people I hang out with aren't trash like you and they dont subscribe to what cacs tell them is so called "proper".


Cacs aren't in my circle and I love it!

While you cacs sit in your private spaces worried about every move blacks make.


nikka I'm blacker than GOD...... you keep throwing around "cac" like that makes your stance right..... I've helped way more nikkas than you ever will, and will be a better benefactor to black people(GOD willing I get blessed with a long life) than you're physically, emotionally, and spiritually capable at this point in time..... and truth be told, you know in your chest you a weak, simple motherfukka...... and a lot of your posts reflect it...... but you got time tho.......
 

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Who designed the ados flag I been meaning to ask?

The number of stars, does it mean anything?
 

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How was the UNIA mostly immigrants or international?

It was more so international.

The majority of Black America during the time Garvey was in the country was in the Black Belt. Jim Crow South - and during the middle of the first wave of the Great Migration.

Only 1 out of 5 Black Americans lived outside the South. A great book to pick up is "The Warmth of Other Suns."

But, on Garvey's membership:

The bulk of UNIA members and followers in this critical period were immigrants from British colonies in the Caribbean, who, bitterly disillusioned with the experience of British racism after patriotically serving in World War I, turned to Garvey and the UNIA. Many had worked on the construction of the Panama Canal and, following its completion in 1914, had flowed into the United States. Some 150,000 Caribbean natives are estimated to have worked on the building of the canal.
 

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Your momma :smile:

Hilarious coming from someone like you. Again, stop disrespecting my ancestors by using words that were created for you and yours. :smile:

Good night!

P.S.: Read a book ugly! And I posted sources. As I always do.
You posted the personal account of one person.

He still had a large contingent of ADOS supporters. Because he also had large support from carribean immigrants doesn't negate adis support.

Many ADOS supported Dubois, a wanna be CAC and known boule clown. He's greatest achievement (black reconstruction) was his main achievement in my eyes pales in comparison to Garvey's nunerous achievement.

If more blacks followed Garvey's lead as opposed to Dubois, blacks is America would be FAR AHEAD. Hes been preaching a "do for self" ns "entrepreneurship mentality since the early 1900's. The fact you would fix your mouth to disparage his importance he's an immigrant is disgusting.
 

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You posted the personal account of one person.

He still had a large contingent of ADOS supporters. Because he also had large support from carribean immigrants doesn't negate adis support.

Many ADOS supported Dubois, a wanna be CAC and known boule clown. He's greatest achievement (black reconstruction) was his main achievement in my eyes pales in comparison to Garvey's nunerous achievement.

If more blacks followed Garvey's lead as opposed to Dubois, blacks is America would be FAR AHEAD. Hes been preaching a "do for self" ns "entrepreneurship mentality since the early 1900's. The fact you would fix your mouth to disparage his importance he's an immigrant is disgusting.

UGH. He is a well-known and respected Black Journalist.

Also, I posted a UCLA historian -who is a Garvey scholar.

Stop disrespecting people you have no clue about. Whether you care or not about DuBois -- the childish, uneducated slander against him says more about you -- and the YouTube historians you follow.

DuBois greatest achievement was Black Reconstruction? STFU.

Just shut up. LOL

Worry about you and yours.
 
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It was more so international.

The majority of Black America during the time Garvey was in the country was in the Black Belt. Jim Crow South - and during the middle of the first wave of the Great Migration.

Only 1 out of 5 Black Americans lived outside the South. A great book to pick up is "The Warmth of Other Suns."

But, on Garvey's membership:

The bulk of UNIA members and followers in this critical period were immigrants from British colonies in the Caribbean, who, bitterly disillusioned with the experience of British racism after patriotically serving in World War I, turned to Garvey and the UNIA. Many had worked on the construction of the Panama Canal and, following its completion in 1914, had flowed into the United States. Some 150,000 Caribbean natives are estimated to have worked on the building of the canal.

:laugh: Man.. .you leaving out a whole lotta of context, facts, and just being disingenuous as fukk..... but I'll sit back and see what your aim really is.....
 

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:laugh: Man.. .you leaving out a whole lotta of context, facts, and just being disingenuous as fukk..... but I'll sit back and see what your aim really is.....

Feel free to clue me in.

I'm always open to learning something new -- or that I don't know. I love learning.

You post sources -- I'll post mine.
 

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Chris Broussard and Stephen A have sources nikka....... :pachaha:

No. I don't get down like that. I respect and appreciate sources and reading and learning as much as I can.

And I look forward to learning more about anything you can educate me on.


Again:

I posted this:

The article was posted on UCLA news room - but it has been removed. I'm sure you can find he cached UCLA article by the historian.

Here is the article on another site:


and here is someone else talking about it:
Marcus Garvey movement owes large debt to Caribbean expats, UCLA historian finds


By Meg Sullivan

This article, by Meg Sullivan, was originally run by the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) Newsroom, August 18, 2011. We will be following up with an excerpted essay by historians Nigel Westmaas and Juanita de Barros on the UNIA in British Guiana.

Conventional wisdom has long held that Marcus Garvey’s Universal Negro Improvement Association (UNIA), which advocated racial self-help and the unity of the African diaspora, grew out of the heady political and cultural environment of the Harlem Renaissance and benefited African Americans above all other black people. Any Caribbean role, according to this view, was separate and incidental to the primary legacy bequeathed to American race relations by the charismatic Jamaica native.

Now a UCLA historian argues the reverse in the first book of a multi-volume series on the Garvey movement and the Caribbean. From the UNIA’s organizational structure to its most valuable foot soldiers during its first half-decade, Garvey’s Caribbean links were indispensable to the movement’s success, and the region ultimately proved to be its most important theatre, contends Robert A. Hill in “The Marcus Garvey and Universal Negro Improvement Association Papers: The Caribbean Diaspora 1910–1920.”

Researching the volume “was an eye-opener in many, many ways,” said Hill, a UCLA history professor and a leading authority on Garvey and the UNIA, which began in Jamaica but attained its greatest influence after Garvey established it in the U.S. in 1917. Caribbean nationals, both in America and abroad, Hill says, were the seed that grew the movement.

“Although the movement developed here and was based in America, it was predominantly a Caribbean movement, at least until federal prosecution of Garvey in the early 1920s drew the attention of African Americans and galvanized their support of him,” he said.

“The Caribbean Diaspora 1910–1920” is scheduled to be published by Duke University Press. With more than 400 documents, many of them newly discovered, it is the opening salvo in the third and final series of a vast collection of primary materials by and about Garvey and the UNIA, considered the largest mass political movement in black history. Highlights from the volume include Garvey’s earliest known published work, a 1911 letter to the editor of a newspaper in Costa Rica, where he was living among fellow Caribbean expatriates employed on banana plantations; a 1912 letter to a Belize newspaper criticizing social conditions under British colonial rule in that country; and a 1920 letter written from New York to the governor of British Guiana in which Garvey says that the majority of his followers are from the English-speaking West Indies.

Read full article here.
I also talked about Garvey in this thread: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/marcus-garvey-was-done-so-wrong.599979/page-3
 

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nikka I'm blacker than GOD...... you keep throwing around "cac" like that makes your stance right..... I've helped way more nikkas than you ever will, and will be a better benefactor to black people(GOD willing I get blessed with a long life) than you're physically, emotionally, and spiritually capable at this point in time..... and truth be told, you know in your chest you a weak, simple motherfukka...... and a lot of your posts reflect it...... but you got time tho.......

Sound like a cac, act like a cac, smell like a cac, thats a cac.
 
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