Africa a little 100 years ago.

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How did we not have guns if we were selling black people in exchange for guns since the 1600s? That's 300 years of trading people for guns before the scramble for Africa. I mean, what the hell?

They were trading muskets etc. Look at the dates on that map....cacs had Maxim guns. That's throw the damn towel shyt

There's a reason why colonisation on a mass scale happened towards the end of the 19th Century despite Africans and Europeans being in contact/trading for hundreds of years prior. The balance of power changed rapidly with the industrial revolution. Japan saw what was going down and industrialised expeditiously.
 

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Nobody did :manny:

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Indeed. Threads or discussions about colonialism often omit the global colonization that took places over the centuries.

Info is out there in book and documentary form. People who don't know are those who choose not to know.
 

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now you carving out pieces to rat eating chinese.
in todays ducktale headlines :duck:

Chinese money is/was just business and a necessary injection into economies. As much as you fakkits might not understand that. Those loans have done more to develop Africa in 10 years than IMF World Bank loans did for 50-60 years

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Business isn't friendship. Do you feel like the bank has your best interest or is it your best option?

Don't bring your buffoonery in here because i will dissect you. Don't forget I made you change your name. You owe 200k to a bank in school loans because you were trying to get ahead in life and become a lawyer... had to get indebted to do so fakkit. Let's talk about that. Same difference :ufdup:
 

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Some countries weren't militarily or technologically advanced enough to stop the Europeans. Others were too into consumerism and manufacturing. For example, there was African nations who bought guns. But none who manufactured them. More importantly, none who tried.
The wealth and technological advances derived from the transatlantic slave trade and the inter-Euro wars are what helped Euros continue their colonization efforts across the globe.
In the case of Africa, quinine was developed in a Spanish slave colony in the Americas. Euros had a way to combat/treat malaria, they were then able to enter interior areas of the continent. That was the beginning of the end.
 

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They were trading muskets etc. Look at the dates on that map....cacs had Maxim guns. That's throw the damn towel shyt

There's a reason why colonisation on a mass scale happened towards the end of the 19th Century despite Africans and Europeans being in contact/trading for hundreds of years prior. The balance of power changed rapidly with the industrial revolution. Japan saw what was going down and industrialised expeditiously.
yeah, alot of the places colonized by Euros were countries/regions that had contact with them and they traded then boom they started invading and colonizing the place.

not all, some Euros came out the gate invading. But for some it was like this, once they got a big advantage.
 

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I don't know all the historical information but Ethiopia is independent and... land locked... sure that wasn't a coincidence
 

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There were tribal lands, kingdoms and chiefdoms. saying because we didn't shape our world the same way Europeans did their means we didn't have unity is false. The world just changed and we got swept up in it and had to adapt rapidly. Trans Atlantic Slave trade applies to a minority of Africa. Yet Colonialism applied to a vast majority.

They bought and stole people and enslaved others right at home. Whatever happened was going to happen regardless. We didn't have the artillery power or the foresight to predict the level of malicious intent demons carry. There was no memo going out saying the world was trying to destroy us.

Today there is a race consciousness that didn't exist back then.

Africans weren't just taken from West Africa during the TAST. They were taken from a lot of different places.

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Where Did African Slaves Come From And Where Did They Go? • Critical Thinking

"The African continent was bled of its human resources via all possible routes. Across the Sahara, through the Red Sea, from the Indian Ocean ports and across the Atlantic. At least ten centuries of slavery for the benefit of the Muslim countries (from the ninth to the nineteenth). Then more than four centuries (from the end of the fifteenth to the nineteenth) of a regular slave trade to build the Americas and the prosperity of the Christian states of Europe. The figures, even where hotly disputed, make your head spin. Four million slaves exported via the Red Sea, another four million through the Swahili ports of the Indian Ocean, perhaps as many as nine million along the trans-Saharan caravan route, and eleven to twenty million (depending on the author) across the Atlantic Ocean (1)."

"But the Africa of the 19th century was very different from the continent which Europeans had encountered four hundred years earlier. As the Trinidadian historian, Walter Rodney, has tried to show, Africa had been drawn by the slave trade down a dangerous path, and it was now well and truly underdeveloped (6). "
The impact of the slave trade on Africa


Artillery? In the 1600s, white people had those very slow musket rifles that took forever to load. A slight advantage in weaponry, but they couldn't really come into Africa without dying from the environment. Africans knew this. When black people from various tribes were being taken away in chains and locked in cages for months on the coast before being shipped out, no one knew the malicious intent white people had?

I didn't say anything about shaping our world like Europeans. I said to unite against a common enemy that's trying to destroy your tribe, and every other tribe. That's just common sense.
 

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There were tribal lands, kingdoms and chiefdoms. saying because we didn't shape our world the same way Europeans did their means we didn't have unity is false. The world just changed and we got swept up in it and had to adapt rapidly. Trans Atlantic Slave trade applies to a minority of Africa. Yet Colonialism applied to a vast majority.

They bought and stole people and enslaved others right at home. Whatever happened was going to happen regardless. We didn't have the artillery power or the foresight to predict the level of malicious intent demons carry. There was no memo going out saying the world was trying to destroy us.

Today there is a race consciousness that didn't exist back then.
Vietnam didn't have the power of the us military, but they United, used the environment to their advantage, and ran us out of there

Whites didn't know the African environment nor be able to survive it without help from other
Africans.

The truth is the truth, but because we dont want to admit we had, and still do, too many weak selfish people, the bullshyt continues to this day with black people all over the world. We ain't gonna ever advance until we wipe that trait out of our genes!

White people were the same way until they traveled the world, and saw they were the minority. They put their issues aside, and went on to conquer.
 

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Most countries on the continent today have no ties to the TAS trade. that's a fact. The map you linked is a general Slave Trade map route out of Africa that includes routes used to The Arabic Slave trade.

The arrows show the destinations of both TAS and Arabic Slave trade which predates the TAS trade and was build on kidnapping rather than selling of people mostly. It also continue after TAS was abolished into the modern era.



Africans weren't just taken from West Africa during the TAST. They were taken from a lot of different places.

Atlantic-Slave-Trade-Map.png


Where Did African Slaves Come From And Where Did They Go? • Critical Thinking

"The African continent was bled of its human resources via all possible routes. Across the Sahara, through the Red Sea, from the Indian Ocean ports and across the Atlantic. At least ten centuries of slavery for the benefit of the Muslim countries (from the ninth to the nineteenth). Then more than four centuries (from the end of the fifteenth to the nineteenth) of a regular slave trade to build the Americas and the prosperity of the Christian states of Europe. The figures, even where hotly disputed, make your head spin. Four million slaves exported via the Red Sea, another four million through the Swahili ports of the Indian Ocean, perhaps as many as nine million along the trans-Saharan caravan route, and eleven to twenty million (depending on the author) across the Atlantic Ocean (1)."

"But the Africa of the 19th century was very different from the continent which Europeans had encountered four hundred years earlier. As the Trinidadian historian, Walter Rodney, has tried to show, Africa had been drawn by the slave trade down a dangerous path, and it was now well and truly underdeveloped (6). "
The impact of the slave trade on Africa


Artillery? In the 1600s, white people had those very slow musket rifles that took forever to load. A slight advantage in weaponry, but they couldn't really come into Africa without dying from the environment. Africans knew this. When black people from various tribes were being taken away in chains and locked in cages for months on the coast before being shipped out, no one knew the malicious intent white people had?

I didn't say anything about shaping our world like Europeans. I said to unite against a common enemy that's trying to destroy your tribe, and every other tribe. That's just common sense.
 

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May this forever be a reminder of what happens when you're not united. You have to unite against a common enemy. Not war with each other even more. Not sell your people to the common enemy. The whole world was coming to destroy our ancestors, and they couldn't squash their beefs to fight the common enemy.
Why is it that Africans are the only
Group that has to be “united” in order to be successful. But Korea, China, Japan operate in competition....

Germany, UK, France operate in competition until the “European union”....
 
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