Al Jefferson is a beast

[SubLyminalz]

best big on the east and a top 3 taper game in the east only behind paul george and

 

[tremonthustler1]

As opposed to the value they got for Wesley Johnson on the trade market

That's because he was a fraud. If he was good he woulda never been on the market because he'd still be here at SF. Whether Cousins woulda been good bad, or otherwise, someone else would have had to go. Those are the types of decisions you try to avoid when you're building a team up. (he too woulda never worked here because a) he didn't wanna be here and b) character risk).

But since you brought up Cousins instead of George, this is why I don't stress over Kevin Love. You know how many 4's have landed right in Minny's lap to be had? Good 4's grow on trees here. When Love leaves someone else will just put up 20/10 (hell Pek is damn near there now) History dictates that. What it also shows is that they can't get a good wing to save their life AND if they did can they develop them?

Aside from Love, who's the last halfway decent player to actually develop on that team? Think about that for a moment. 450 players in the NBA and you never hear of a T'Wolf on the come up. That's an institutional problem. The last player I can recall that developed was probably Marbury and he was there for 3 years before he got fed up

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

That's because he was a fraud. If he was good he woulda never been on the market because he'd still be here at SF. Whether Cousins woulda been good bad, or otherwise, someone else would have had to go. Those are the types of decisions you try to avoid when you're building a team up. (he too woulda never worked here because a) he didn't wanna be here and b) character risk).

But since you brought up Cousins instead of George, this is why I don't stress over Kevin Love. You know how many 4's have landed right in Minny's lap to be had? Good 4's grow on trees here. When Love leaves someone else will just put up 20/10 (hell Pek is damn near there now) History dictates that. What it also shows is that they can't get a good wing to save their life AND if they did can they develop them?

Aside from Love, who's the last halfway decent player to actually develop on that team? Think about that for a moment. 450 players in the NBA and you never hear of a T'Wolf on the come up. That's an institutional problem. The last player I can recall that developed was probably Marbury and he was there for 3 years before he got fed up

Y'all just been lucky when it comes to 4's. Y'all could easily end up like Cleveland and go through decades of not having a good one. shyt we haven't drafted a good 4 since we had C-Webb now that I think about it. After K-Love it might be a long ass drought before you draft another good 4. The last few drafts haven't produced any close to that level.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Y'all just been lucky when it comes to 4's. Y'all could easily end up like Cleveland and go through decades of not having a good one. shyt we haven't drafted a good 4 since we had C-Webb now that I think about it. After K-Love it might be a long ass drought before you draft another good 4. The last few drafts haven't produced any close to that level.

Why?

If they suck, the 2015 class is FILLED with good bigs. If they trade Love to Chicago, the biggest Euro prospect out Mirotic would play the 4 (even though IMO he'd never suit up for us) Love got his spot by taking another talented 4's spot. If and when they move him, who's to say they won't get some PF back? Every proposal you read has them linked to some other 4 who would just come up and put up numbers.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Why?

If they suck, the 2015 class is FILLED with good bigs. If they trade Love to Chicago, the biggest Euro prospect out Mirotic would play the 4 (even though IMO he'd never suit up for us) Love got his spot by taking another talented 4's spot. If and when they move him, who's to say they won't get some PF back? Every proposal you read has them linked to some other 4 who would just come up and put up numbers.

Love is a future hall of famer dude. Your not getting another one of those back because there's only a handful of them in the league and they're not being traded. Don't tell me about no rookies being close to that either because everybody including yourself thought Favors was the next Amare and he's barely an average starting 4 right now.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Love is a future hall of famer dude. Your not getting another one of those back because there's only a handful of them in the league and they're not being traded. Don't tell me about no rookies being close to that either because everybody including yourself thought Favors was the next Amare and he's barely an average starting 4 right now.

We always do. They always find productive 4's. I've never worried about that. If the next 4 came in and only averaged 18 and 8 but we won more, why would I care about Love's plaque in Springfield? This isn't like losing KG. Not even close.

and why would I ever compare Favors to Amare? They don't even play alike.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

We always do. They always find productive 4's. I've never worried about that. If the next 4 came in and only averaged 18 and 8 but we won more, why would I care about Love's plaque in Springfield? This isn't like losing KG. Not even close.

and why would I ever compare Favors to Amare? They don't even play alike.

You thought Favors would be a stud. I think you're bracing yourself for the inevitable exit of Love. I don't blame you for it because we all see it coming. Statistically Love is better than Garnett in his prime on the offensive end of the ball. If Minny was smart enough to sign your boy Varnado y'all would be in the playoffs for sure. You're downplaying Love because you know he won't be retiring in a Minny jersey and that he's moonwalking out the door when his deal is up or if they trade him before that.

 

[tremonthustler1]

You thought Favors would be a stud. I think you're bracing yourself for the inevitable exit of Love. I don't blame you for it because we all see it coming. Statistically Love is better than Garnett in his prime on the offensive end of the ball. If Minny was smart enough to sign your boy Varnado y'all would be in the playoffs for sure. You're downplaying Love because you know he won't be retiring in a Minny jersey and that he's moonwalking out the door when his deal is up or if they trade him before that.

Bracing myself? I didn't want him here remember?

Like I said, this is NOTHING like KG leaving. KG still IS the T'wolves team. Love's been planning an exit strategy for years now. If anything, I laugh at the Wolves fans that didn't want Mayo because they thought he'd bolt to a big market first chance he got while Love would stay here forever (that was the narrative).

And he could never see KG on any level.

 

[Majestic Pape]

Curry didn't wanna be there in the first place (thus, the team never seriously considered him-- that's an ownership mandate since Marbury, but I could talk about that forever)

Curry insisted on PG. Regardless of whether he played well or not, after 2 years he was either moving to SG or benched.

Curry gets hurt a lot. After 2 years of ankle injuries, I think everyone woulda just lumped him in with literally every player that got hurt on the Wolves (McCants, Foye, Brewer, Love, even Big Al and as we found out, Flynn too all got hurt their 2nd year there-- that streak ended with Wes Johnson and I wish he had Shaun Livingston'd himself that year)

Lastly, there simply aren't enough defensive players that can cover for a team that is deficient defensively at the 2, 4, and 5.

Remember how nice of a guy Flynn was and how likeable he was? Well the offense was so disjointed under Kurt Rambis, Flynn was cursing him out during games. Big Al's this soft spoken dude, doesn't do nothing crazy, lunch pail attitude, even that guy drove drunk. The team had/s a habit ot taking real class act characters and making them turn into the most frustrated people alive. To this day it's happening (we're seeing it under a different regime and we're seeing it happen to Rubio of all people)

Stephen Curry would never have to worry about being benched in favor of Ricky Rubio.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Stephen Curry would never have to worry about being benched in favor of Ricky Rubio.

Oh but he was. And his first 2 years showed no indication that he'd be a great PG, just a great shooter.

If Flynn played like CP3 his first 2 years it woulda made the decision to bring him over tougher, but that's about it. It woulda took something like that to change shyt and that didn't happen.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Curry didn't wanna be there in the first place (thus, the team never seriously considered him-- that's an ownership mandate since Marbury, but I could talk about that forever)

Curry insisted on PG. Regardless of whether he played well or not, after 2 years he was either moving to SG or benched.

Curry gets hurt a lot. After 2 years of ankle injuries, I think everyone woulda just lumped him in with literally every player that got hurt on the Wolves (McCants, Foye, Brewer, Love, even Big Al and as we found out, Flynn too all got hurt their 2nd year there-- that streak ended with Wes Johnson and I wish he had Shaun Livingston'd himself that year)

Lastly, there simply aren't enough defensive players that can cover for a team that is deficient defensively at the 2, 4, and 5.

Remember how nice of a guy Flynn was and how likeable he was? Well the offense was so disjointed under Kurt Rambis, Flynn was cursing him out during games. Big Al's this soft spoken dude, doesn't do nothing crazy, lunch pail attitude, even that guy drove drunk. The team had/s a habit ot taking real class act characters and making them turn into the most frustrated people alive. To this day it's happening (we're seeing it under a different regime and we're seeing it happen to Rubio of all people)

He didn't want to be here either. He refused to workout for us. I'm sure he's happy we took him instead of the Knicks now.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Oh but he was. And his first 2 years showed no indication that he'd be a great PG, just a great shooter.

If Flynn played like CP3 his first 2 years it woulda made the decision to bring him over tougher, but that's about it. It woulda took something like that to change shyt and that didn't happen.

Neither did Derrick Rose or Russy. Neither are traditional point guards.

 

[tremonthustler1]

He didn't want to be here either. He refused to workout for us. I'm sure he's happy we took him instead of the Knicks now.

but the difference is this. Golden State wasn't worried about that. Glen Taylor has been burned so many times by guys who would otherwise be somewhere else, he won't want them here even if they're great.

Been like this since Marbury. If you don't work out for them or interview for them, they don't pick you. If you hint that you don't wanna be there, they don't bother with you. Glen would give anything to make sure he never has another Marbury problem on his team again. He won't even risk it. Flip took 2 guys he didn't work out (Muhammad and Dieng) and he was pissed about it. This is on ownership, simple and plain.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

but the difference is this. Golden State wasn't worried about that. Glen Taylor has been burned so many times by guys who would otherwise be somewhere else, he won't want them here even if they're great.

Been like this since Marbury. If you don't work out for them or interview for them, they don't pick you. If you hint that you don't wanna be there, they don't bother with you. Glen would give anything to make sure he never has another Marbury problem on his team again. He won't even risk it. Flip took 2 guys he didn't work out (Muhammad and Dieng) and he was pissed about it. This is on ownership, simple and plain.

Kahn never mentioned that in his exit interview tho did he? He took all the blame for passing on him.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Kahn never mentioned that in his exit interview tho did he? He took all the blame for passing on him.

He didn't need to. This (again) predates him. What I recall him saying was that he probably woulda took Flynn anyway, but that Curry not working out for them made it a lock. Same shyt happened with DeRozan too.

The Love trade came directly as a reaction to an assumption that Mayo wouldn't enjoy Minnesota yet Love immediately made it clear that he had no problems living there. If Love had shied away from Minneapolis, they take Brook Lopez

I've been to these combine interviews. The first question a Minny writer always asks is "are you able to handle the cold weather" or "can you handle the cold?" The last couple of years, every player was taken with the logic of "well they can't bytch about the weather, look at where they played"