Alchemist - 'This Thing Of Ours' (Discussion Thread)

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I expected to hate this EP after seeing this cover art and just having a gut feeling it would be on some drumless artsy shyt. I’m so tired of drumless beats y’all.

Well, spoiler alert. I was right about it being artsy and drumless. However, despite that, I think this sounds really vibrant and colorful. I was very surprised I actually liked this. It’s nothing like Bread or Lunch Meat. This EP really does sound how the cover art looks. Don’t expect any bangers like you heard on Tea in China or Lulu. But it’s still groovy.
:russ: came in here knowing you would hate on the drumless shyt but alas you've come to the darkside...drumless Alc loops for the win :blessed:

Nah in all seriousness sometimes there is a place for the drumless beats depending on the MC, sequencing, overall vibe of the project. This one fits I'm feeling this project :mjgrin:

Earl actually sounds dope on here. Definitely got a different energy on this one!
 

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:russ: came in here knowing you would hate on the drumless shyt but alas you've come to the darkside...drumless Alc loops for the win :blessed:

Nah in all seriousness sometimes there is a place for the drumless beats depending on the MC, sequencing, overall vibe of the project. This one fits I'm feeling this project :mjgrin:

Earl actually sounds dope on here. Definitely got a different energy on this one!
:heh: you can count on me like the sun to hate on 2 our of every 3 drumless beats. I'm very surprised I enjoy this project as much as I do. I just really dig this energy on this new EP. Even though everything is drumless, I like Earl's energy, and I just dig that everything sounds warm and breezy. It's good music for the spring time here. It's the kind of music that makes me want to ride with the windows down and enjoy the breeze.

And contrary to what you may think, I really do love some drumless beats. All the old RZA classics from the 90's that were drumless I like (Daytona 500, 260, etc), and even Alchemist beats like So Fresh, Hoard 90, and even recent ones like Phone Bill and E. coli I really love.

I thought Tea in China did it perfectly. 12 joints. 3 with no drums, and they were spaced perfectly apart to help add some dynamics to the album.

I've always hated there was no instrumental version of this. I can never hear it and not have my mood improve.
 

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I'm trying to catch up on him, Mutant Academy, Fly Anakin, Navy Blue, Sideshow, Maxo, and some of these related cats.
i need to hear that Negro album with the bonus tracks cant find a link nowhere.
 

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I'm trying to catch up on him, Mutant Academy, Fly Anakin, Navy Blue, Sideshow, Maxo, and some of these related cats.

yeah I'm trying to figure out where to start with these type of dudes. I really got into hommy lately, been going through his projects, now I'm finding all these other dudes, that arm and hammer album got me wanting to check out like quelle Chris and billy woods and shyt, but I don't really know what their seminal work is, ya know?

What are the classic grad school rap tracks and albums I gotta listen to
 

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yeah I'm trying to figure out where to start with these type of dudes. I really got into hommy lately, been going through his projects, now I'm finding all these other dudes, that arm and hammer album got me wanting to check out like quelle Chris and billy woods and shyt, but I don't really know what their seminal work is, ya know?

What are the classic grad school rap tracks and albums I gotta listen to
Good question breh

feel like we need help from @Zero or @Piff Perkins maybe they can help steer us.

Two things kicked it off for me. We got this Alchemist EP, and then the new Evidence album tracklist on the same day. On the Ev tracklist I saw Fly Anakin and Navy Blue, and QThree. And last year when Ev had that other single produced by Graymatter, when I looked him up, I found Pink Siifu, Chuck Strangers, etc.

I can tell you that I really enjoyed these albums in the past week.

- Song of Sage by Navy Blue
- Too Afraid to Dance by Chuck Strangers
- At The End of The Day by Fly Anakin
- FlySiifu by Fly Anakin and Pink Siifu
- The Struggle Continues by QThree

But let me know if you hear anything really dope, because I'd like to catch up too. Also, for what it's worth, I find Boldy James to kind of a mix of goon/street rap, but also this art house rap, or as you said it, grad school rap. He fits in well rapping on these art house tracks.
 
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yeah I'm trying to figure out where to start with these type of dudes. I really got into hommy lately, been going through his projects, now I'm finding all these other dudes, that arm and hammer album got me wanting to check out like quelle Chris and billy woods and shyt, but I don't really know what their seminal work is, ya know?

What are the classic grad school rap tracks and albums I gotta listen to

With Armand Hammer (Billy Woods and Elucid) I'd def check out Race Music. For Billy Woods solo def check out History Will Absolve Me and then check out the albums after that.

Hommy...I like him overall but I'll let @Zero recommend a better route to getting into him. There's just so much stuff.
 

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With Armand Hammer (Billy Woods and Elucid) I'd def check out Race Music. For Billy Woods solo def check out History Will Absolve Me and then check out the albums after that.

Hommy...I like him overall but I'll let @Zero recommend a better route to getting into him. There's just so much stuff.
@neph27

Those are the best starting points for Armand Hammer. Be sure to check out Save Yourself from Elucid too.

Track down Haitian Body Odor and the G.A.T for Mach. Those are his 2 best solos IMO.

Quelle Chris dropped Guns in 2019 which was actually pretty good to me. That's his only solo I've peeped thus far. His duet album with his wife Jean Grae had some good moments but overall a little too left field.
 

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Those are the best starting points for Armand Hammer. Be sure to check out Save Yourself from Elucid too.

Track down Haitian Body Odor and the G.A.T for Mach. Those are his 2 best solos IMO.

Quelle Chris dropped Guns in 2019 which was actually pretty good to me. That's his only solo I've peeped thus far. His duet album with his wife Jean Grae had some good moments but overall a little too left field.

Damn I had no idea jean grae was his wife. That's crazy. Thanks for the recommendations breh. I been bumping GAT a lot this week
 

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This shyt is very good btw. Really looking forward to the next full length album Alc does with someone. We always gonna hope/pray for the Roc Marci joint album but it could be anyone at this point and I'll be excited. Earl, Navy Blue, more Boldy, etc.
 
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