Exactly. Tyson wouldve just lit his ribs up and then took his head off as he did millions of times to other boxers but I’ll let people have their fantasies
Ali vs Tyson in their prime?
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Exactly. Tyson wouldve just lit his ribs up and then took his head off as he did millions of times to other boxers but I’ll let people have their fantasies
Yep, he ain't got the chin nor the heart like Joe but faster feet, faster hands, better defense, more balanced punching power...similar fighting style that gave Ali problems with better technique..
He lost to a smaller, weaker, slower, less powerful version of the boxer he’s supposed to easily beat. And then had to go the distance and almost die in the ring to win the other times
That's a terrible take on Tyson.
Ali did all that dancing and playing around because he had zero defense. He got hit often and hit hard, his chin was pretty much his defense. Tyson wouldn't need to land "lucky" punches...he would be hitting him practically throughout the fight. Nevermind the fact that Tyson wasn't just some haymaker throwing brute. Alot of his knockouts came off counters and him slipping jabs while the other guy desperately tried to keep distance.
The only question in Ali vs Tyson is can Ali eat Tyson's uppercuts and hooks without dying. Because he WILL eat them. If he can then he wins...
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I'm not saying I agree or disagree because it could go either way. But I will say to counter that point is, that would be saying Ali was stupid... he wouldnt be opening himself up like that. We are talking about two of the greatest in their prime. Saying Ali just took punches would be like saying Tyson would tap out after a few rounds, both are not really true completely. I think Ali would fight like a straight up bytch for a long time
I'm not even going to lie... he would do whatever he could to delay the fight and run the clock down... he may even take a knee and a long count just to escape the first few rounds. I know what I'm saying is obviously crazy because tyson could hurt you any way regardless.... but people posted examples of Mike struggling and his weakness is known against lesser boxers. I'm not saying Mike couldnt win but it would be easier for a Legend in his prime to gameplan vs Mike than against Ali... Similar to how Floyd knows how to box and score points. It would be really hard because he's defensive and counter punching, to score points and beat him in an all out match..... Tyson would HAVE to K.O Ali and it would have to happen very early. That would be the only shot he has at winning. Mike would have to literally say fukk it and go into Alexander the Great mode and try to kill Ali for it to work. I think if Ali didnt bullshyt too much, a nice body shot could take him out. They would have to stop the fight. But there's many ways Ali can win and only 1 for Tyson.
UpAndComing
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Lol no lie, I would love to see that
Who you got in that match
UpAndComing
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Wilder's reach, height, and jab
Similar to what Buster Douglas had
Tyson would paralyze Wilder
Wilder has barely any technique to his punches, and had no fundamentals. Its the reason Tyson Fury out boxed the shyt out of him.
Wilder just has ridiculous physical gifts which usually overwhelms most people. Tyson would eat that dude alive.
UpAndComing
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Wilder has a better chin than Tyson, and punching power is about equal
Tyson avoided people with a longer reach with punching power. He's susceptible who guys who have a good long jab as well. Which is why he avoided Lennox Lewis in his prime and Riddikk Bowe
That was Ali after a 3 year layoff. Mike is in my top 5 favorite fighters, but who has he beaten?
PoorAndDangerous
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The 1:23 mark....
The 2:22 mark.......poor Marvis
But the 2:44 mark....how was Pinklon Thomas not DEAD?! You can actually HEAR the impact of the gloves smashin into his face
holy fukking shyt Pinklon Thomas took so many fukking bombs
I wouldn't call it overrating Ali, more like underrating Tyson, his intelligence specifically. They dismissing the fact that boxing isn't always about who's better. Tyson's style of fighting could be a fukking nightmare for Ali, even with him showing the utmost respect and saying he couldn't beat Ali, he also acknowledged he ain't really have defense like that.
So what.
If he had been toying with Mike Tyson like that he would have gotten hurt homeboy
As I said above, people are underestimating Mike's in-ring intelligence, why wasn't Dokes throwing any of those shots to the body? He call his mother an astronaut or something?
His handspeed was legit but he wasn't just about to throw 10-12 punches at somebody head and miss, he would have lifted him off the ground in that same situation that Doakes had him in. Unless you wanna blame it on the parkinsons Ali said himself that if Mike caught him he'd be slummped. If Frazier could do it, Mike could do it too and it wouldn't have shyt to do with him being a better fighter or not.
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IsThatBrothaMouzone?
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Exactly. Joe Frazier could lay damn near anyone out and Foreman literally bounced Frazier off the canvas. Old Ali beat prime Foreman.
Ali would get Tyson riled up with shyt talk pre-fight and then let Mike wear himself out early. Plus Ali faced dudes like Liston....he wouldn't be scared of Mike.
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I just got done watching a tyson documentary and its a damn shame what happened to him. In his prime, before shytty ass Don King, he was compared to Ali as some one whos just as fast and agile but with more power. Matter of fact, most people were saying they never seen anyone since Ali that dominated like Tyson. After the death of his OG trainer, and then his other trainer 2 years later, he went to shyt. I think mentally he lost it. Plus the drugs