All You "The NFL Is Dying" Retards Can STFU Now.....

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People don't seem to understand the dynamics of the National Football League. They're in the business of entertaining and generating revenue.

So yes, when your biggest money maker is on the offensive side, and scoring points similar to a basketball game is entertaining to more consumers, then the rules will cater to that side of the ball. Is it fair? Not really, and the real football heads (those who played, coach) don't like it,
yes

but its still football and we'll love it regardless.
see thats the mindset of THEIR thinking. its bullshyt. it's the "you'll eat it up because there is no alternative" mindset.
how far is far enough though ? will we still love it when its touch football ?
nikkas really wanna return to the '40s though when it was a penalty to throw an incomplete pass, or the 80s where it was legal to shove a receiver all around the field up to 10 yards (and teams running the R&S/49ers were still putting up big numbers passing), and that's never gonna happen. So you can either stop crying and accept the direction football is going, or stop watching and stop supporting. It's that simple
resorting to hyperboles is stupid. when one does it, quality of the argument goes down by like 50%.
 

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....but this presuppositions that there aren't alot - ALOT - of informed NFL fans who are older than 30, those who've been watching the league since way back in the 70s, who DO understand about mechanics and the recent pussification of the game, but who still enjoy it as much as I did yesterday. It's wholly dismissive of that whole demographic and, again, such a sensibility lacks factual data to support itself.

So how is there quanification THERE?

Look, we could do this all day, so let's just agree to disagree on this, brotha.
breh, you want quantification on how football smart an average football watcher is and how much he enjoys the games? if you arent stupid, you damn well know no such numbers can be kept.

I dont think you can disagree with me that watching the red zone is NOT the same as watching an actual game tho, can you ? sure, it has positives such as no commercials, but you miss like 80% of the plays.
 

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see thats the mindset of THEIR thinking. its bullshyt. it's the "you'll eat it up because there is no alternative" mindset.
how far is far enough though ? will we still love it when its touch football ?

resorting to hyperboles is stupid. when one does it, quality of the argument goes down by like 50%.

Nah, that's my thinking, there's a difference. Imma love the game until there is no more contact football, which won't happen in my lifetime. And what's the point of the argument then? What am I missing if you agreed with my point of it being a entertainment league?
 

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Nah, that's my thinking, there's a difference. Imma love the game until there is no more contact football, which won't happen in my lifetime. And what's the point of the argument then? What am I missing if you agreed with my point of it being a entertainment league?
its entertainment league in their business framework, of course. doesnt mean I agree with it and cant voice my displeasure, does it ?

doesnt mean I shouldnt want it to be more about sports than entertainment. to me its like 99% sports 1% entertainment.
 

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I dont think you can disagree with me that watching the red zone is NOT the same as watching an actual game tho, can you ? sure, it has positives such as no commercials, but you miss like 80% of the plays

No debate there, but that was never the debate. In fact, I agree with you that the Red Zone was CREATED for that specific purpose (entertaining fringe fans).

But as an INFORMED fan who just so happens to enjoy it, I'm not going to unilaterally condemn it because it wasn't made for fans like me in mind. Almost sounds like what you're doing. When YOU say something like:

half of them would meet you with a blank stare if you talk about the B gap (unless they played madden

....you make it seem like the majority of people watching it/football in general are that type. Breh, I dunno who YOU watch football with, who YOU know, but I know some pretty educated fans because I can't engage in sports talk with idiots. And for every "broad who likes the Patriots because of Tom Brady" there's some guy who breaks down film when his favorite team's coach hosts his post-game show. You can't quantify any of it....you can only guess.

So it's just the wholly presumptuous notion that "the game ain't the same and therefore you can't enjoy football the way you used to....unless you're a fringe/uneducated fan", 'cause at its core that's what this is about. I disagree with that. And it almost comes off on some purist shyt, like those baseball retards.

Again, we just disagree.
 

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No debate there, but that was never the debate. In fact, I agree with you that the Red Zone was CREATED for that specific purpose (entertaining fringe fans).

But as an INFORMED fan who just so happens to enjoy it, I'm not going to unilaterally condemn it because it wasn't made for fans like me in mind. Almost sounds like what you're doing. When YOU say something like:



....you make it seem like the majority of people watching it/football in general are that type. Breh, I dunno who YOU watch football with, who YOU know, but I know some pretty educated fans because I can't engage in sports talk with idiots. And for every "broad who likes the Patriots because of Tom Brady" there's some guy who breaks down film when his favorite team's coach hosts his post-game show. You can't quantify any of it....you can only guess.

So it's just the wholly presumptuous notion that "the game ain't the same and therefore you can't enjoy football the way you used to....unless you're a fringe/uneducated fan", 'cause at its core that's what this is about. I disagree with that. And it almost comes off on some purist shyt, like those baseball retards.

Again, we just disagree.
because football is so popular the % of retards is just higher :manny: what can I say ? Ive said before that Ive met more fans of NBA that are far more knowledgeable and passionate about the game itself than actual NFL fans who know what theyre talking about
I can only base this on my experience and interpretation breh, so maybe your impression is different :manny:

and again, you want some quantification of something....because you got the tv ratings number that say something is popular.
you want quantification where its clearly impossible, most likely on purpose to juxtapose those numbers. because you yourself dont have any quantification besides how many people watch a football game...
 

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I think they meant in the quality of play being "diminished" a bit due to the constant rules changing

The rule changes are having a direct result on this phenomenon though. nikkas bytching about roughing the QB calls don't realize that if the QB's aren't protected they'll get hurt. If they're hurt, they won't play. If they don't play, less people will watch.

Take Peyton Manning out of last night's game and you get half the ratings. Only a Bronco or Chiefs fan would wanna watch that shyt.
 
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