Alright..who's the best in the ring WWE wise at this point?

[Osmosis]

Jericho's been putting on clinics since January

Clinics?

 

[stro]

Clinics on how to have a mid life crisis and think you can still move like you're 25 when you're 46.

 

[Spyro]

Jericho's had more good matches in the last 4 months than Reigns and Ambrose have had in the last couple of years. The 4 Styles matches, the fatal 4 way, the New Day/AJ tag match etc. Still brill in the ring, that lionsault is still

 

[R=G]

He's been alright. Seems kind of sluggish though.

 

[8WON6]

Right now I'd say Sami. I think the only thing holding him back is he's skinny-fat. After that the next tier or maybe even same tier is like Seff, Neville, and Cesaro. But yeah right now Sami is the best.

With Nakamura, I'll say it again, I think he's a good in-ring character, but I don't think he's great in the ring. Kind of like Flair. Flair had a good in-ring character but he wasn't any better or worse than others at wrestling. I know somebody's going to say "well that's all part of in ring", so there's that.

 

[mrken12]

I have to add Sheamus as one of the top wrestlers as well. He has a great moveset and most importantly he sticks to one style. He doesn't try to do unnecessary high flying moves or be extra fancy. His style is straightforward and impactful.

Even Daniel Bryan has given him props:

Daniel Bryan Says Sheamus Gave Him Some Of His Best Matches, Wants Shinsuke Nakamura In WWE - WrestlingInc.com

Who has given him his best matches in recent years:

"Sheamus. I love his wrestling style. He wrestles a very physical style. I remember we did a European tour together and we were booked to wrestle each other every night. Our best match was right after my 18-second loss to Sheamus at Wrestlemania."

 

[Osmosis]

Jericho's had more good matches in the last 4 months than Reigns and Ambrose have had in the last couple of years. The 4 Styles matches, the fatal 4 way, the New Day/AJ tag match etc. Still brill in the ring, that lionsault is still

reigns/lesnar/ambrose
reigns/cesaro
reigns/lesnar
reigns/bryan
reigns/big show
ambrose/hhh
ambrose/reigns
ambrose/owens
ambrose/rollins on raw after summerslam
ambrose/rollins hiac

and literally all the shield matches

are better than any match jericho has had since 2012

 

[PlainSight]

I have to add Sheamus as one of the top wrestlers as well. He has a great moveset and most importantly he sticks to one style. He doesn't try to do unnecessary high flying moves or be extra fancy. His style is straightforward and impactful.

Even Daniel Bryan has given him props:

Daniel Bryan Says Sheamus Gave Him Some Of His Best Matches, Wants Shinsuke Nakamura In WWE - WrestlingInc.com

Begrudgingly agree - he always has solid matches, just unfortunate that he tends to wrestle the same fukking guys over and over again in a row, it's only when he has a fresh match that I remember "Hey, Sheamus is still decent "

Sheamus the wrestler >>>>>>> Sheamus the character.

 

[stro]

Jericho's had more good matches in the last 4 months than Reigns and Ambrose have had in the last couple of years. The 4 Styles matches, the fatal 4 way, the New Day/AJ tag match etc. Still brill in the ring, that lionsault is still

Those matches with AJ all sucked and nearly killed AJ on the spot for how shytty they made him (as in AJ) look having to slow down for Dadbod McCoolpants.

 

[PYRRHUS 88]

Right now I'd say Sami. I think the only thing holding him back is he's skinny-fat. After that the next tier or maybe even same tier is like Seff, Neville, and Cesaro. But yeah right now Sami is the best.

With Nakamura, I'll say it again, I think he's a good in-ring character, but I don't think he's great in the ring. Kind of like Flair. Flair had a good in-ring character but he wasn't any better or worse than others at wrestling. I know somebody's going to say "well that's all part of in ring", so there's that.

I don't agree at all. Everything Nakamura does looks legit. His strikes are obviously elite tier, his submission/mma stuff looks realer than just about any other wrestler I can think of who uses that style, his transitions are dope, he bumps his ass off, his selling is as good as it gets, has great timing on his comebacks, knows when to start laying stuff in a little more to bring out that fire in his opponent (like when he starts kicking them in the face as they lay between the ropes) etc etc. Not to mention, he created a style that's unmistakeably his own, unlike a lot of these (admittedly great) Indie Moveset Guys like Zayn, Cesaro, Seth, Neville, etc. Shinsuke is the total package as a wrestler (no Luger)

Sami is a great worker in his own right, but I don't see how anyone could watch their match together and not come away thinking they saw a "top 10 in his era" talent in Zayn, and an "all-time great" talent in Nakamura.

 

[Versa]

I don't agree at all. Everything Nakamura does looks legit. His strikes are obviously elite tier, his submission/mma stuff looks realer than just about any other wrestler I can think of who uses that style, his transitions are dope, he bumps his ass off, his selling is as good as it gets, has great timing on his comebacks, knows when to start laying stuff in a little more to bring out that fire in his opponent (like when he starts kicking them in the face as they lay between the ropes) etc etc. Not to mention, he created a style that's unmistakeably his own, unlike a lot of these (admittedly great) Indie Moveset Guys like Zayn, Cesaro, Seth, Neville, etc. Shinsuke is the total package as a wrestler (no Luger)

Sami is a great worker in his own right, but I don't see how anyone could watch their match together and not come away thinking they saw a "top 10 in his era" talent in Zayn, and an "all-time great" talent in Nakamura.

Yeah that dude who said Nakamura is just a great in ring character is clowning

 

[Mr. Manhattan]

That ROH Talent

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Cesaro has always been the definition of vanilla midget, but he doesn't get that label because he's tall. He's ALL movez, no substance.

You mean No personality, cesaro matches have substance

 

[mrken12]

So no one is going to point out these amazing Rollins matches?

 

[BK The Great]

Cesaro (should get a major push, but needs work on the mic)
Jericho
Seth Rollins (when he returns it should get more interesting)