Alright..who's the best in the ring WWE wise at this point?

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Either Rollins or Owens, ironically two heels who can get over as faces easily because of their ring work
 

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Only right answer here.


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Aj styles has been the best wrestler in the world going on and off for 5 years and still is

Nakamura is right up there tho
 

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So no one is going to point out these amazing Rollins matches? :mjpls:


http://www.profightdb.com/wrestler-star-ratings/seth-rollins-3328.html
Every PPV match he had in his title reign was four stars or above except spamming ass Lesnar and :flabbynsick: ass Kane who he still got 3 and a half stars out of and :old: ass Sting who called Rollins the most talented dude he'd ever worked with

This isn't even counting the best triple threat match in the last ten years and him having the best match of the night at WM 31 (and that was before saving the main event :umad:)

Besides, I don't grade workers based on how good their matches are because by and large it depends on who they're in the ring with and what limitations they have placed on them. In terms of fluidity, ability to make others look good, athleticism, selling, and versatility, Rollins is second to none. He's a generational talent.
 

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Seth Rollins: Wrestling Observer Newsletter Star Ratings - Internet Wrestling Database (IWD)
Every PPV match he had in his title reign was four stars or above except spamming ass Lesnar and :flabbynsick: ass Kane who he still got 3 and a half stars out of and :old: ass Sting who called Rollins the most talented dude he'd ever worked with

This isn't even counting the best triple threat match in the last ten years and him having the best match of the night at WM 31 (and that was before saving the main event :umad:)

Besides, I don't grade workers based on how good their matches are because by and large it depends on who they're in the ring with and what limitations they have placed on them. In terms of fluidity, ability to make others look good, athleticism, selling, and versatility, Rollins is second to none. He's a generational talent.

:duck:

They actually said Orton vs Rollins at Wrestlemania was 4 stars. :aicmon: Probably just because of that finish.

And that Rollins vs Ambrose ladder match wasn't 4 stars. The match went way too long and the finish was stupid.
 

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They actually said Orton vs Rollins at Wrestlemania was 4 stars. :aicmon: Probably just because of that finish.

And that Rollins vs Ambrose ladder match wasn't 4 stars. The match went way too long and the finish was stupid.

Orton Rollins was great, don't even hate. I agree that match was probably made off of that spot, but the same can be said for plenty of matches (HBK vs Shelton for example). Crossfit Jesus still carried Blandy to his best singles match in years :ahh:


Umm... ok? You asked for objective examples of great Rollins matches and I gave them to you. You can nitpick or disagree but that doesn't change the fact. I still stand by the fact all of those other factors I listed are what really counts when determining a best in the world caliber worker, and Seth is unmatched in that regard. There's a reason so much of the veteran praise for him is actually coming at a time where, relatively speaking, he's narrowed his moveset. :ufdup:
 

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On a board where everyone is a racist, mother fukkers are stanning for a dude who dresses up as Mr. White Power for big matches and cheated on his fiance with a broad super into Hitler, who then stayed with her for many months after it was made public that she was into Nazi shyt, even going so far as to bring her with him to WWE events even after she was fired.

All because he can do some flippy dippies. :mindblown:

The same reckless twat that shattered Cena's face and killed Sting. What the fukk.
 
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On a board where everyone is a racist, mother fukkers are stanning for a dude who dresses up as Mr. White Power for big matches and cheated on his fiance with a broad super into Hitler, who then stayed with her for many months after it was made public that she was into Nazi shyt, even going so far as to bring her with him to WWE events even after she was fired.

All because he can do some flippy dippies. :mindblown:

The same reckless twat that shattered Cena's face and killed Sting. What the fukk.

And all of that has to do with his wrestling ability... what exactly? Would you call Michaels or Flair great people in the prime of their careers where they were most lauded for their work? Besides people are stanning Cesaro and Styles on here way more and ironically they're more reliant on certain spots and gimmicks (uppercuts for Cesaro, strikes/highflying for Styles) than Rollins. Not gonna address the petty personal bullshyt but Cena got his nose busted because he literally put his head down into the knee and Sting signed off on two buckle bombs at 57. :beli:

Tf is a flippy dippy :what:
 
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And all of that has to do with his wrestling ability... what exactly? Would you call Michaels or Flair great people in the prime of their careers where they were most lauded for their work? Besides people are stanning Cesaro and Styles on here way more and ironically they're more reliant on certain spots and gimmicks (uppercuts for Cesaro, strikes/highflying for Styles) than Rollins. Not gonna address the petty personal bullshyt but Cena got his nose busted because he literally put his head down into the knee and Sting signed off on two buckle bombs at 57. :beli:

Tf is a flippy dippy :what:

Breh you're actually engaging with someone who does nothing but (badly) troll on this board
 

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And all of that has to do with his wrestling ability... what exactly? Would you call Michaels or Flair great people in the prime of their careers where they were most lauded for their work? Besides people are stanning Cesaro and Styles on here way more and ironically they're more reliant on certain spots and gimmicks (uppercuts for Cesaro, strikes/highflying for Styles) than Rollins. Not gonna address the petty personal bullshyt but Cena got his nose busted because he literally put his head down into the knee and Sting signed off on two buckle bombs at 57. :beli:

Tf is a flippy dippy :what:

A flippy dippy is a chickenshyt heel who, nonetheless, has spots of doing three dives in a row, a regular phoenix splash attempt, and multiple flying moves and things like that shytty move in the corner Punk used to do on the indies to flip while holding onto the ropes for some reason.

In general, a flippy dippy is someone who relies on cool looking moves (generally flips and dives, but not always) to get pops instead of working a match in character or with a story. We're gonna talk about guys being more reliant than spots than Rollins, a dude who the night he killed Sting had already done 3 bucklebombs, and a dude who HAS to get his shyt in so much that he feels as a cruiserweight, he needs to be powerbombing monsters like Kane. To the point where he fukked himself up doing it, when it made no sense for him to be even attempting powerbombs on fukking KANE, Cena, or Sting in the first place.

Not even taking into consideration how many times per match he hits his enzuigiri.

Breh you're actually engaging with someone who does nothing but (badly) troll on this board

I never troll here. I believe in everything I say, otherwise I wouldn't waste my time. I troll Wreddit from time to time, though. Opinions not matching up with yours, or in the general consensus is not trolling, and that's probably the worst thing about online interactions right now. Everyone that doesn't share your views is a troll and it immediately shuts down any and all conversation.
 
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I never troll here. I believe in everything I say, otherwise I wouldn't waste my time.

Cesaro has always been the definition of vanilla midget, but he doesn't get that label because he's tall. He's ALL movez, no substance.

The answer to all these injuries is dudes need to be back on the gas. The schedule in the late 80s was even crazier than it is now, and there were fewer injuries, and the guys who did get hurt were able to be back much sooner due to chemical help.

The world of wrestling needs less Crossfit fukks, and more jacked up monstrosities like Barbarian/Warlord/Bulldog in 1991.

I'm comfortable in saying that Andre/Hogan is better than Steamboat/Savage at WM 3

ok, whatever you say :francis:
 
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