Am I the only person embarrassed about being a descendant of slaves?

[Zak Bible]

Don't misinterpret this being ashamed of being black, I know that black people have a special meaning on this planet and inherently given gifts that others don't. I love being black, despite the struggles it brings some days.

But just knowing that I'm descended from men that just got their manhood stripped and sent to a strange land to work until they die, men that just watched as their wives got raped and bore mulatto children, men that, in some cases, even got tied up and fukked in the ass, men that got tortured for fun, shyt is pretty fukking disheartening

I mean, obviously, revolting would have led to their death and I wouldn't be here, but the shyt makes me fukking cry brehs. Isn't it better to die on your feet than live on your knees?

I'm just posting the thread because that slave master name thread made me do some thinking. I'm also high as hell right now, and when I smoke I get really depressed.

Nope. It means we are stronger as a people. Our story is better than theirs.

 

[Unknown Poster]

No. But I am I ashamed of other blacks who are ashamed of their ancestry, history, & everything that being black encompasses.

Repped

 

[HopeKillCure]

Would rather be decended from slaves than to be the descendent of fukking slave masters and slavers

 

[Samori Toure]

I never said that there weren't other groups of people who were enslaved, but more Africans have been funneled into chains than any other people on this earth in the post ancient world and that's just a fact. And the kings and queens who did not engage in the slave trade were not enough to stall the eventual mass depopulation and political destabilization of an entire continent so what does that even matter? These are trends that occurred on a macro level over the course of a millennia. Africans let Africans down, and it's up to us Africans in the continent and diaspora to fix it for our descendants
EDIT: Also it's kind of funny how most of those white slavery examples you listed involved Muslims who were still enslaving us at disproportionate rates while all that was happening so I don't really see how that negates anything

First of all it was Africans that enslaved other Africans. If you did any research on that then you would know that that was always the case. Secondly, you can not state the bolded with any certainty, because the word slave comes from the word "slav" as in Slavic people. They were enslaved quite a bit by a lot of different people. We also don't know the full extinct of Asians enslavement of one another. The Chinese were enslaved so that right there should be telling you quite a bit. Additionally, colonialism was slavery so the Chinese and Indians of India that were enslaved and colonized far outnumbered the Africans that were colonized.

 

[little4209]

Nope, proud of everything that I've came from.. Yea, we were slaves and were still able to rise up and be the dopest race

 

[JayGatsby]

Only if we had that jew mentality ....

 

[KingSlime]

First of all it was Africans that enslaved other Africans. If you did any research on that then you would know that that was always the case. Secondly, you can not state the bolded with any certainty, because the word slave comes from the word "slav" as in Slavic people. They were enslaved quite a bit by a lot of different people. We also don't know the full extinct of Asians enslavement of one another. The Chinese were enslaved so that right there should be telling you quite a bit. Additionally, colonialism was slavery so the Chinese and Indians of India that were enslaved and colonized far outnumbered the Africans that were colonized.

Stop it dude. Between 1525 and 1866 12.5 million African slaves were shipped from Africa to the Americas via the Atlantic ocean. Between the year 1500 to 1900, an additional 17 million Africans were sold into slavery off of the coast of the Indian Ocean into the Middle East, Red Sea, and North Africa. At no point were Slavic people trafficked to the extent that African people were, and even that entire demonym was devised by Arabs, the same Arabs who refer to our entire racial group as slaves as well anyway.
EDIT: And Asians enslaving other asians within Asia or Africans enslaving other blacks isn't important to my point. All people have enslaved other people. But Africans enslaved other ethnic Africans on behalf of outsiders (with those same outsiders being the main profiteers of this transaction, not Africans), to the point where it completely destroyed the political fabric and social order of an entire continent and making it descend into rapid decline. No other group of people in modern History has come close to such folly

 

[notPsychosiz]

You should only be embarassed if you intend to live your life and expire without ever collecting your pound of flesh.

 

[Cadillac]

Without our enslaved ancestors this country, the wealth these cacs have, and other things wouldnt exist.

U need help if u feel ashamed or need to read up on history

 

[NoGutsNoGLory]

AS an African (first generation Nigerian American) whose family was actual African royalty (my Grandmother, rest in peace to her), I'm just saying it's the truth.

They have AAs believe their history started with slavery in the Americas...but what about the other 25,000 years before then? Do you just omit that from the history books?

That's why America loves to downplay the accomplishments of African people, because if fully analyzed without revisionism, it paints the portrait of a prolific and powerful people.

We Africans take pride in ourselves and our people. To withstand the adversity and still triumph in the face of it after so many years is an accomplishment that should be taught to the younger generations. I cannot stand idly by and watch the products of greatness not acknowledge it. My father told me the same thing and I heed that word to whomever may listen.

Its different for you breh because you know exactly where you come from but for us we have no idea and its not a single place but multiple places. Our history did begin with slavery but hopefully it heads towards greatness. I'm not going to let my and my peoples past dictate my future.

 

[NoGutsNoGLory]

Stop it dude. Between 1525 and 1866 12.5 million African slaves were shipped from Africa to the Americas via the Atlantic ocean. Between the year 1500 to 1900, an additional 17 million Africans were sold into slavery off of the coast of the Indian Ocean into the Middle East, Red Sea, and North Africa. At no point were Slavic people trafficked to the extent that African people were, and even that entire demonym was devised by Arabs, the same Arabs who refer to our entire racial group as slaves as well anyway.
EDIT: And Asians enslaving other asians within Asia or Africans enslaving other blacks isn't important to my point. All people have enslaved other people. But Africans enslaved other ethnic Africans on behalf of outsiders (with those same outsiders being the main profiteers of this transaction, not Africans), to the point where it completely destroyed the political fabric and social order of an entire continent and making it descend into rapid decline. No other group of people in modern History has come close to such folly

what?is this true? I didn't know it was that high. I guess it makes sense because the Middle East is much closer to Africa.

 

[Samori Toure]

Stop it dude. Between 1525 and 1866 12.5 million African slaves were shipped from Africa to the Americas via the Atlantic ocean. Between the year 1500 to 1900, an additional 17 million Africans were sold into slavery off of the coast of the Indian Ocean into the Middle East, Red Sea, and North Africa. At no point were Slavic people trafficked to the extent that African people were, and even that entire demonym was devised by Arabs, the same Arabs who refer to our entire racial group as slaves as well anyway.
EDIT: And Asians enslaving other asians within Asia or Africans enslaving other blacks isn't important to my point. All people have enslaved other people. But Africans enslaved other ethnic Africans on behalf of outsiders (with those same outsiders being the main profiteers of this transaction, not Africans), to the point where it completely destroyed the political fabric and social order of an entire continent and making it descend into rapid decline. No other group of people in modern History has come close to such folly

Right, because your point would be invalid if you had to realize that vast numbers of other people were also enslaved. I love how you just skipped right over colonialism too, because people were shipped from places like India to Africa.

 

[Dr. Hibbert's Revenge]

nah breh. you have to remember that before they were slaves, our ancestors were farmers, artists, craftsmen, priests and healers, traders, scholars, storytellers, all kinds of shyt. they were sons, daughters, mothers, fathers, husbands, wives, uncles, aunts, etc. they were embedded in social, economic, and cultural systems which had been developing since cacs were still cave dwelling cannibals. our ancestors were loved and hated, laughed and cried... they were heros, cowards, they had side bytches, they had favourite foods. ima be real, when i imagine the lives my ancestors lived and everything they must have been and how everything was taken from them just like that and how scared they must have been i get extremely emotional.yes, slavery was a big part of their experience, but our ancestors were far more than slaves. even when they were in chains, they created new cultures, dialects, cuisines, art, and traditions wherever they went. shyt, u can trace the lineage of rock/jazz/rnb/pop/pretty much every contemporary musical genre back to black american slaves. the first muslims in america were black.

it sounds obvious now, but when i was growing up, my teachers and parents didn't teach me shyt about the motherland. i knew that my ancestors were slaves and for many years that's how i saw them--as just slaves whose lives were defined by suffering and toil and nothing else. it wasn't until i was 13 when i started to read about west african civilizations and the culture of black slaves in the carribean/america that i learned the truth...

imma cut this post short bc i don't wanna rant. but to answer your question, hell nah i'm not embarrassed that my ancestors were slaves.

 

[KingSlime]

Stop it dude. Between 1525 and 1866 12.5 million African slaves were shipped from Africa to the Americas via the Atlantic ocean. Between the year 1500 to 1900, an additional 17 million Africans were sold into slavery off of the coast of the Indian Ocean into the Middle East, Red Sea, and North Africa. At no point were Slavic people trafficked to the extent that African people were, and even that entire demonym was devised by Arabs, the same Arabs who refer to our entire racial group as slaves as well anyway.

Right, because your point would be invalid if you had to realize that vast numbers of other people were also enslaved. I love how you just skipped right over colonialism too, because people were shipped from places like India to Africa.

Okay you obviously don't want to read through my posts or reply with substance so I guess we're done here.

 

[Samori Toure]

Okay you obviously don't want to read through my posts or reply with substance so I guess we're done here.

We were done at first, because you seem to only think that slavery over the last 1500 years have involved basically Africans. You completely ignored stuff like the enslavement of native people (American Indians) right here in the Americas by the Europeans and you are seemingly clueless about the fact that the that the Germans enslaved millions of Jews and Slavs during WWII. You also seemingly ignored saqaliba and the enslavement of other slavic people that also happened during the same 1500 year period. You also ignored colonialism which was also slavery, because it did not fit your narrative.

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