Amazon's HQ2 moving to Northern VA and NYC; 2/14: Amazon pulls out of NYC after public backlash!

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This might've had a different outcome had the state, Cuomo and De Blasio not worked out this plan in secret with Amazon before going public without any input from local residents or their local representatives. Plans negotiated in secret don't tend to earn a lot of goodwill, no matter their supposed benefits (e.g. TPP)
 

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This might've had a different outcome had the state, Cuomo and De Blasio not worked out this plan in secret with Amazon before going public without any input from local residents or their local representatives. Plans negotiated in secret don't tend to earn a lot of goodwill, no matter their supposed benefits (e.g. TPP)
Yup. Amazon didn’t even pretend to be open to negotiate any terms.
 

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They already live there. :manny:
 

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“You have to be tough to make it in New York City. We gave Amazon the opportunity to be a good neighbor and do business in the greatest city in the world. Instead of working with the community, Amazon threw away that opportunity. We have the best talent in the world and every day we are growing a stronger and fairer economy for everyone. If Amazon can’t recognize what that’s worth, its competitors will.”

Mayor de Blasio

de Blasio is pissed.
I'm interested if any of Amazons competitors will take advantage of the opportunity.

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Real talk Amazon should have renegotiated in good faith. The original deal didn't help NYC outside of the promise of tax revenue. That is not worth the benefits they were going to make as a company or the influence they were going to have being such a big business in NYC.
 

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You sound like people should struggle so that Amazon can eat and "development" can occur

Tell us more about falling housing prices and rent in NYC, Nap :mjlol:
There’s no business in NYC anymore. It’s all corporate branches. The fact NYC gave up that much. THEY KNEW the stakes. NYC didn’t just pretend they didn’t want those jobs.

these cities know what they want and don’t want.
 

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de Blasio is pissed.
I'm interested if any of Amazons competitors will take advantage of the opportunity.

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Real talk Amazon should have renegotiated in good faith. The original deal didn't help NYC outside of the promise of tax revenue. That is not worth the benefits they were going to make as a company or the influence they were going to have being such a big business in NYC.
Amazon got too cocky
 

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People really need to live outside of NY/LA. Ask yourself who is working at these F500 companies. It’s not Ivy League grads. People eat at these firms from local schools.

Not in NYC too much competition for jobs. For every local kid from a city college who gets hired by a F500 there are 10 b*stards who moved here with a Ivy degree to get that job. The majority of people who go to school in NYC got to get jobs out of state.

Nobody in NYC wanted this deal cause we knew who was going to get hired.
 

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Personally im happy they're not coming, it wouldn't have just hurt the lower and middle class in LIC, the cost of living increases would have been felt in surrounding areas, Astoria, Sunnyside, Woodside, Jackson heights, Elmhurst, maspeth, middle village, the cost of living in northwestern Queens would go through the roof. My wife and I have one child and both good jobs, we're firmly middle class and it's still a struggle, I can't imagine how some do it.

Another issue I had was the issue with stretching out a infrastructure that's already stretched too thin. We have a crumbling Subway system and traffic is a complete nightmare. What are they doing to allieviate that, they can't even get on the same page to improve and fix the Subway. Yet they want people off the road an take a broken Mass transit system. Now you're going to send 25k into an already highly congested area. My wife has worked in LIC for 4-5 years now and her average commute has increased about 10-15 minutes during this time.

Personally I feel cuomo and deblasio did a horrible job trying to sell this on NY'ers. I suppose the game plan was short term sacrifice for long term gain, that the taxes generated from 25k high paying jobs more than makes up for the 3 billion in subsidies. If that's the case they needed to work harder on selling this and selling this to the people that would be hurt the most. But there sales line was basically this is good for the city because we said so. I know this deal would have helped a lot of people, small businesses over there were looking forward to an extra 25k people in the area that made good money. It just feels like it hurt more people than it would help. And if it would help more than hurt they did a horrible job on selling that to us.
 

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I agree the city gave up to much. But if you're from NY and love NY and work in tech you don't have to move yourself or your family for work you're going to be deflated about this
Sure it would be great for the small subset of people but majority current residents would be worse off.
 

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de Blasio is pissed.
I'm interested if any of Amazons competitors will take advantage of the opportunity.

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Real talk Amazon should have renegotiated in good faith. The original deal didn't help NYC outside of the promise of tax revenue. That is not worth the benefits they were going to make as a company or the influence they were going to have being such a big business in NYC.
Tell that lanky potbellied fukk and his fukkboy Governor to legalize marijuana in the state so we can pull in the hundreds of millions of EASY TAX REVENUE from it and put it towards infrastructure :camby:
 

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My point is that it will be mainly local talent. That local talent being transplants is irrelevant to me since NYC is a transplant city.
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my point is it wont...again, you're treating this like some 1000 outpost in nashville. it is a 10-25000 job center in a city people flock to already, it's bigger than the HQ of many highly desirable companies that people jump to move for (uber, airbnb, etc.). i've seen plenty of people from my schools (and others) jump at big satellite offices of tech companies, like those who go to facebook austin - it's not just texas/southwest folks
 
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