Amazon's HQ2 moving to Northern VA and NYC; 2/14: Amazon pulls out of NYC after public backlash!

[radio rahiem]

yeah...cause that area needs development and NYC needs diversification in their economy. More people are leaving the North East.

Have you seen Long Island City? The amount of high rises on Jackson ave itself dispels the idea it needs more development.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Have you seen Long Island City? The amount of high rises on Jackson ave itself dispels the idea it needs more development.

jobs > housing

now you just have housing with no jobs to compete with for better housing.

remember, over time the demand for NEW housing drives down prices for people as more housing gets built.

Now you're left with just millionaire investment vehicles.

 

[nyknick]

Amazon HQ2 was a coup for NYers or want to be NYers looking for better paying tech jobs while living in the city.

But the city overplayed it's hand.

Nah, NYC economy is big enough that city can't be held ransom by Amazon. City already gave way too much in the back door deal but then when unions got involved and put pressure on local politicians Amazon decided to kick rocks.

I guess it wasn't worth it for Amazon to have East Coast presence if it meant having to deal with unionized labor

 

[Pressure]

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i work in tech as well and see it all the time, this isn't some rinky dink 500 person satellite, 25k jobs is big and will attract tons of outside talent. a lot of people who don't want to go to the west coast will be applying for positions there, same way people do with google NY. even if it was mainly locals talent that all rushes to those jobs, that local talent is built from transplants who have moved to NY for high paying jobs and it creates a vaccum for more transplants to move to NY. it's silly to think these jobs somehow create opportunity for the just ok reputation SUNY grad as opposed to opening up another location for harvard/princeton grads who don't want to move to cali or seattle for a tech gig.

My point is that it will be mainly local talent. That local talent being transplants is irrelevant to me since NYC is a transplant city.

 

[Pressure]

Nah, NYC economy is big enough that city can't be held ransom by Amazon. City already gave way too much in the back door deal but then when unions got involved and put pressure on local politicians Amazon decided to kick rocks.

I guess it wasn't worth it for Amazon to have East Coast presence if it meant having to deal with unionized labor

I agree the city gave up to much. But if you're from NY and love NY and work in tech you don't have to move yourself or your family for work you're going to be deflated about this

 

[BillBanneker]

They'd move to NYC due to the concentration of business there, both for their retail and AWS/tech.

They also increase the ability to have their support/engineering teams work with the sun (East coast hours are still the busiest by far).

also to attract talent from NE schools.

Outside of young talent, most elite talent that's already established usually looks to work in places where there money goes further and they can start a family/buy a home.

Possibly, considering all the freebies the mayor/governors office was giving them that would might give them to include other departmental operations there they wouldn't have considered before. But, you don't need to locate in NYC to handle those things (engineering/aws/tech), unless the talent your scoping for is really competitive. They can get crazy incentives from a Atlanta, Charlotte, etc. if they're wanting closer connections with east coast clients without the NYC price tag, which would be attractive to those workers looking for less expensive family housing/schools/etc.

Having (and advertising) a HQ in NYC is quite a bit of leverage in itself IMO, and really shows what they were shooting for.

 

[Pressure]

Possibly, considering all the freebies the mayor/governors office was giving them that would might give them to include other departmental operations there they wouldn't have considered before. But, you don't need to locate in NYC to handle those things (engineering/aws/tech), unless the talent your scoping for is really competitive. They can get crazy incentives from a Atlanta, Charlotte, etc. if they're wanting closer connections with east coast clients without the NYC price tag, which would be attractive to those workers looking for less expensive family housing/schools/etc.

Having (and advertising) a HQ in NYC is quite a bit of leverage in itself IMO, and really shows what they were shooting for.

If they were looking for a site of 5k or so I think CLT or Atlanta could work, but for 25k I just don't think they have enough local talent concentration. Paying travel for recruits would be


That said, Charlotte wanted and allegedly offered a lot, but Amazon was like :keefdontlike:
.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Nah, NYC economy is big enough that city can't be held ransom by Amazon. City already gave way too much in the back door deal but then when unions got involved and put pressure on local politicians Amazon decided to kick rocks.

I guess it wasn't worth it for Amazon to have East Coast presence if it meant having to deal with unionized labor

Bezos is not fukkin with that union shyt at all he's already on some scumbag shyt

 

[BillBanneker]

If they were looking for a site of 5k or so I think CLT or Atlanta could work, but for 25k I just don't think they have enough local talent concentration. Paying travel for recruits would be


That said, Charlotte wanted and allegedly offered a lot, but Amazon was like :keefdontlike:
.

I think if amazon was going to atl/clt they wouldn't be bringing in 25k folks, would be much closer to 5-10k max considering NC and GA would be foaming at the mouth just to have amazon.

But good point about the travel for interviews/hires.

One of the podcasts I listen to pretty much said bezos, like all these west coast guys, don't wanna be in these red/maga states anyway so they had no shot at a HQ.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I mean there are good random hustles and jobs here if you have connections. There's a lot of money to be made here. I could have another six cert salary if I wanted to work in several sectors. If we got the Amazon jobs tech would've still only made up like 10-15 precent of the city's workforce if I remember correctly. Also a lot of businesses would've popped up to support Amazons operations in the area. This a huge self goal.

Most of what would've been the campus are empty lost and outdated manufacturing buildings on their last legs and there are very few people that live in the immediate area.

The city still has a significant amount of manufacturing/industrial zones there's just few companies that warrant their use or further development. I've actually worked in several of them over the last decade and they've stuggled to find tenants.

Losing amazon is like breaking up with a girl you introduced to your parents. You love her enough to see a future together and this break up might have hurt your ability to grow into a better person. There were flaws but you can’t help but know if there wouldn’t have been better upside.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

If Amazon was about anything but pure bullshyt, they would have built that HQ.....UPSTATE NY

They could have built it in Westchester...then maybe I could reason that there would be people from White Plains, YO, The Bx maybe POSSIBLY eating off of it. People from further upstate moving down and helping to revitalize these places.

Not fukking Queens, smack dab in the middle of NYC, in arguably the most diverse part of the entire fukking city, where it would undoubtly force out long time residents, small businesses, and people who can barely afford to live there as it is.

You sound like people should have to struggle to work at Amazon.

Think about what you’re saying.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

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My point is that it will be mainly local talent. That local talent being transplants is irrelevant to me since NYC is a transplant city.

People really need to live outside of NY/LA. Ask yourself who is working at these F500 companies. It’s not Ivy League grads. People eat at these firms from local schools.

 

[Scholar]

jobs > housing

now you just have housing with no jobs to compete with for better housing.

remember, over time the demand for NEW housing drives down prices for people as more housing gets built.

Now you're left with just millionaire investment vehicles.

You're assuming standard supply and demand. Landlords have monopolies on the housing stock and obviously set prices/ restrict supply

 

[tru_m.a.c]

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My point is that it will be mainly local talent. That local talent being transplants is irrelevant to me since NYC is a transplant city.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I think if amazon was going to atl/clt they wouldn't be bringing in 25k folks, would be much closer to 5-10k max considering NC and GA would be foaming at the mouth just to have amazon.

But good point about the travel for interviews/hires.

One of the podcasts I listen to pretty much said bezos, like all these west coast guys, don't wanna be in these red/maga states anyway so they had no shot at a HQ.

Scott Galloway called DMV/NYC as HQ2 locations.

Look this is a huge L for NYC