Amazon's HQ2 moving to Northern VA and NYC; 2/14: Amazon pulls out of NYC after public backlash!

[Tommy Fits]

I think Amazon played themselves by doing this back door dealing and then refused to budge on any details like the tax incentives or that stupid effing helipad.

Plus their lack of commitment to the local infrastructure was insulting...however NYC needed amazon and I think everyone lowkey knew it. They just wanted better terms.

I think this would have gone a long way in helping getting Amazon here.

 

[Pressure]

my point is it wont...again, you're treating this like some 1000 outpost in nashville. it is a 10-25000 job center in a city people flock to already, it's bigger than the HQ of many highly desirable companies that people jump to move for (uber, airbnb, etc.). i've seen plenty of people from my schools (and others) jump at big satellite offices of tech companies, like those who go to facebook austin - it's not just texas/southwest folks

Agree to disagree. NY has a larger population than most of those smaller satellite locations. If there goal is to increase headcount then talent has to come from somewhere and it's easier to get it in the NY metro area than court people further out. Especially considering they're expanding in multiple locations.

That's not to say there won't be a decent portion of external talent moving to NY because most of what I'm hearing is fear mongering.

It's important to note that when they turned down CLT area they did so because there was a lack of local talent.

 

[88m3]

You're assuming standard supply and demand. Landlords have monopolies on the housing stock and obviously set prices/ restrict supply

You know who has a real monopoly? The City!

 

[the cac mamba]

gonna be interesting backlash and reaction to this, this week

 

[Spatial Paradox]

Amazon HQ2 was a coup for NYers or want to be NYers looking for better paying tech jobs while living in the city.

But the city overplayed it's hand.

Speaking for myself as a software engineer living in NYC, I think we'll be OK in this regard. Compensation for the top tech companies here is already on par with the total compensation offered by these same companies in Silicon Valley. And last I heard, Amazon is actually pretty stingy when it comes to their total compensation compared to other major tech companies

I suppose the big difference is there will be one less major company that could poach tech workers from other companies, but it's not like companies, big and small, aren't doing that on the regular here now. Hell, I'm already scheduled for an interview with Google in a few months and the only reason it's not happening sooner is because I asked for the time to study for it (off-topic, but it says a lot that someone would have to study that much for an interview) and I just started my current job six months ago, so I'm not exactly actively looking for a new job.

 

[Robbie3000]

Theres a balance.

People dont want to move to SF/Seattle anymore.

Thats why TX, ATL, CLT, etc are booming right now.

Some of yall gotta see what these companies are seeing.

Even DMV needs NON-government affiliated jobs. Thats a major win for DC to hold down Amazon.

You don’t know what the fukk you are talking about.

Amazon is moving to Crystal City because they are the sole bidder for a AWS contract with the DOD worth several billions.

All their work will be Fed govt related like almost every other contractor in the DMV.

 

[Pressure]

You don’t know what the fukk you are talking about.

Amazon is moving to Crystal City because they are the sole bidder for a AWS contract with the DOD worth several billions.

All their work will be Fed govt related like almost every other contractor in the DMV.

Yea, all the big players are setting up campuses in the area to get that government money

 

[How Sway?]

If ny doesn't want it. We'd gladly take it here in nc.

I'm sure my peoples back in Chicago wouldn't mind having it either.

 

[88m3]

So to all the people who support this getting axed what is the benefit again in that?

Will the land turn into Narnia?



Re: Gentrifciation whenever I'm up there it's Lamborghinis, McLarens, GT3RS, Turbo S, Bentleys and shyt

I want to know.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Not in NYC too much competition for jobs. For every local kid from a city college who gets hired by a F500 there are 10 b*stards who moved here with a Ivy degree to get that job. The majority of people who go to school in NYC got to get jobs out of state.

Nobody in NYC wanted this deal cause we knew who was going to get hired.

Whose fault is that?

Now you have NOTHING.

Congrats, i guess?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Personally im happy they're not coming, it wouldn't have just hurt the lower and middle class in LIC, the cost of living increases would have been felt in surrounding areas, Astoria, Sunnyside, Woodside, Jackson heights, Elmhurst, maspeth, middle village, the cost of living in northwestern Queens would go through the roof. My wife and I have one child and both good jobs, we're firmly middle class and it's still a struggle, I can't imagine how some do it.

Another issue I had was the issue with stretching out a infrastructure that's already stretched too thin. We have a crumbling Subway system and traffic is a complete nightmare. What are they doing to allieviate that, they can't even get on the same page to improve and fix the Subway. Yet they want people off the road an take a broken Mass transit system. Now you're going to send 25k into an already highly congested area. My wife has worked in LIC for 4-5 years now and her average commute has increased about 10-15 minutes during this time.

Personally I feel cuomo and deblasio did a horrible job trying to sell this on NY'ers. I suppose the game plan was short term sacrifice for long term gain, that the taxes generated from 25k high paying jobs more than makes up for the 3 billion in subsidies. If that's the case they needed to work harder on selling this and selling this to the people that would be hurt the most. But there sales line was basically this is good for the city because we said so. I know this deal would have helped a lot of people, small businesses over there were looking forward to an extra 25k people in the area that made good money. It just feels like it hurt more people than it would help. And if it would help more than hurt they did a horrible job on selling that to us.

that sounds like Amazon should have been renegotiating a better deal instead of being cocky.

This is a loss for NYC.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

So to all the people who support this getting axed what is the benefit again in that?

Will the land turn into Narnia?



Re: Gentrifciation whenever I'm up there it's Lamborghinis, McLarens, GT3RS, Turbo S, Bentleys and shyt

I want to know.

In Manhattan? In the nicer parts of Queens and BK?

Who is driving Lambos in SS Jamaica, Queens? Gawdfather Fif and associates?

Who are these Bentley pushers in East Flatbush? Are there some GS9 affiliates that weren't nabbed and are eating off 6 Figures and Certs?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

my point is it wont...again, you're treating this like some 1000 outpost in nashville. it is a 10-25000 job center in a city people flock to already, it's bigger than the HQ of many highly desirable companies that people jump to move for (uber, airbnb, etc.). i've seen plenty of people from my schools (and others) jump at big satellite offices of tech companies, like those who go to facebook austin - it's not just texas/southwest folks

This is wrong.

High value candidates will chase high value jobs anywhere. You're not obligated to hire locally.

HOWEVER...if Local schools churn out local talent, they will compete...just like they do in Texas, ATL, CLT, and even Chicago.

Look at corporate statements they use to justify relocations. They always cite how many high quality candidates local schools churn out.

To say locals won't benefit is a lie.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Sure it would be great for the small subset of people but majority current residents would be worse off.

well how great are they doing now?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Agree to disagree. NY has a larger population than most of those smaller satellite locations. If there goal is to increase headcount then talent has to come from somewhere and it's easier to get it in the NY metro area than court people further out. Especially considering they're expanding in multiple locations.

That's not to say there won't be a decent portion of external talent moving to NY because most of what I'm hearing is fear mongering.

It's important to note that when they turned down CLT area they did so because there was a lack of local talent.

I don't understand people saying locals won't get hired.

Where do people think all these Ivy league and old money schools are located???

Its all in the North East. The North East INVENTED that concept of high value job candidates.