Amazon's HQ2 moving to Northern VA and NYC; 2/14: Amazon pulls out of NYC after public backlash!

[88m3]

Explain how its bullshyt.

(b) The Public Parties recognize that the Company needs access to the Development Sites and agree to assist in securing access to a helipad on the Development Sites, as part of the Development Plan and subject to FAA approval. If the Public Parties and the Company mutually agree that an onsite helipad is not feasible, the Public Parties will assist the Company in securing access to a helipad in an alternative location in reasonable proximity to the Development Sites. Any new construction would be at the Company’s sole expense, and, in order to minimize disruption to the surrounding communities, the Company agrees to: (i) limit flights and landings to corporate use by the Company; (ii) cooperate with the Public Parties in selecting the least disruptive feasible location on the Development Sites; (iii) restrict landings to no more than 120 per year; and require that all flights be exclusively over water or the Development Sites, to the extent consistent with applicable laws, rules and regulations.


https://d39w7f4ix9f5s9.cloudfront.net/4d/db/a54a9d6c4312bb171598d0b2134c/new-york-agreement.pdf
That's if they even get permits which I sort of doubt.

It has been decades now since advocates for a quieter and less polluted city have railed against the helicopter industry, which came into tragic disfavor most dramatically in 1977, when a rotor blade broke off a helicopter that had been ferrying people to Kennedy Airport from the roof of the Pan Am building in Manhattan, killing five people, one of them a woman walking down Madison Avenue. After a crash in the East River in 2011, various politicians and members of City Council called for a ban on tourist helicopters, pointing out that since 1983 there had been 28 crashes in New York with at least 19 fatalities. The ban never materialized. Instead, two years ago, the city moved to reduce the number of tourist helicopter flights around Manhattan by half — to 30,000 per year.

‘Open-Door’ Helicopters Are No Longer Flying Over New York City. What About Banning All Tourist Flights?

barely any flights as well if they do get permits

that number is just for tourist flights

 

[DirtyD]

(b) The Public Parties recognize that the Company needs access to the Development Sites and agree to assist in securing access to a helipad on the Development Sites, as part of the Development Plan and subject to FAA approval. If the Public Parties and the Company mutually agree that an onsite helipad is not feasible, the Public Parties will assist the Company in securing access to a helipad in an alternative location in reasonable proximity to the Development Sites. Any new construction would be at the Company’s sole expense, and, in order to minimize disruption to the surrounding communities, the Company agrees to: (i) limit flights and landings to corporate use by the Company; (ii) cooperate with the Public Parties in selecting the least disruptive feasible location on the Development Sites; (iii) restrict landings to no more than 120 per year; and require that all flights be exclusively over water or the Development Sites, to the extent consistent with applicable laws, rules and regulations.


https://d39w7f4ix9f5s9.cloudfront.net/4d/db/a54a9d6c4312bb171598d0b2134c/new-york-agreement.pdf
That's if they even get permits which I sort of doubt.


‘Open-Door’ Helicopters Are No Longer Flying Over New York City. What About Banning All Tourist Flights?

barely any flights as well if they do get permits

that number is just for tourist flights

So it's not bullshyt, because this is the literal definition of a subsidy.

 

[88m3]

So it's not bullshyt, because this is the literal definition of a subsidy.

We're not paying for a helipad.

 

[DirtyD]

We're not paying for a helipad.

Yeah we're subsidizing one.

 

[88m3]

Yeah we're subsidizing one.

Oh you're just crying wolf and trolling. Cool. I was concerned about your reading comprehension skills...

 

[Arithmetic]

 

[Arithmetic]

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‘You Are All Inside Amazon’s Second Headquarters,’ Jeff Bezos Announces To Horrified Americans As Massive Dome Envelops Nation
SEATTLE—After a search for a new location lasting more than a year, a massive dome was seen descending from the sky and enclosing the whole nation Friday as Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos announced to a horrified American populace that it was now living inside his company’s second headquarters.

 

[Pressure]

I might have to switchover to Amazon.

NY what's up?

 

[Scholar]

Trash

He's full of it. He just used the opposite argument to put limits on community board members. He's a hypocrite

 

[Scholar]

ulurp is garbage and has cost us a lot of affordable housing /

Giving community boards, city council members, and borough presidents the power to voice their concerns and stop development is a bad thing? Should developers just be able to build where they please without community pushback?

 

[tru_m.a.c]

all the lawmakers in NY and VA fighting this deal. Those are the fighting words of people who truly wish to fight for the middle class.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Oh shut the fukk up with this nonsense. She isn’t doing nothing but keeping a mindset of being poor. Amazon average software salary is
121K base salary + $19K annual bonus +$33K annual equity + $30K signing bonus

Amazon product manager salary is 115k plus bonus

And NYC just got 25k of these jobs, and she keeps bytching about please don’t bring these jobs here.

I don't think you understand what this means for the cost of living or the strain this will put on local and state budgets.

But let me go research your posts on Foxconn

Edit: No history of posts....yeah I don't think you understand how these deals play out in part because you probably just don't care. You just saw amazon, saw queens, like Amazon's services, and got hyped.

 

[Pressure]

There are two arguments being rolled out and each have merit, but ultimately it's absurd for Amazon to receive this large of an incentive.

For me it's twofold at the very least:

• They're putting their businesses in places where it makes the most financial sense for them. We can see this on their decision to go with two locations instead of one and not the ones with particularly the largest incentived
• If you have 45 billion to shed off then there's likely other places you could have used that money.

 

[88m3]

Giving community boards, city council members, and borough presidents the power to voice their concerns and stop development is a bad thing? Should developers just be able to build where they please without community pushback?

I think the process is broken for a lot of reasons and you're making loaded arguments that I haven't made. When it prevents housing from being built it is a bad thing. The LICH re-development or the fight over the building on Flatbush most recently are great examples of stupidity and arrogance that have cost affordable housing. Rich or poor people are pushing back just to push back with NIMBY nonsense. I'm more on board with materials and design reflecting their surroundings along the lines of landmarks than what is currently going on. Density and appropriate zoning changes need to be way higher and housing focused than they currently are allowed in many places of this city.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Oh shut the fukk up with this nonsense. She isn’t doing nothing but keeping a mindset of being poor. Amazon average software salary is
121K base salary + $19K annual bonus +$33K annual equity + $30K signing bonus

Amazon product manager salary is 115k plus bonus

And NYC just got 25k of these jobs, and she keeps bytching about please don’t bring these jobs here.

They serve a labor pool of those who are already entrenched in the world of six figure jobs. This HQ2 doesn’t create new jobs for locals, it doesn’t provide new opportunities for a wider swath of people. It will open up more jobs for the elite college alumni who are economically and socially mobile and were already able to move to any city they want for jobs.

The local government should not have been subsidizing the move of the wealthiest corporation into their city, a city that has no shortage of employers wanting to be located there, especially when it’s simply going to draw employees from all over the nation, the same way Amazon hq in Seattle does. I’d love to see the percentage of NY public university grads (Who I’d assume are at least local to the state) that get jobs there, that shyt will be to Columbia and NYU what google out here is to Stanford and Berkeley.