American Drone Strike Policy Discussion

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Yeah that's what I don't get about dude. He comes off mad angry and abrasive and always tries to belittle people then turns around and tries to lecture people about tone and debate ettiquette. :wtf: That's the issue I had with him when he was trying to get at me about how I argue then got on some "I'm smarter than you!" shyt. I'm like do you read your own posts?

@BarNone you're an arrogant a$$hole. Nothing wrong with it. Embrace it.

:laff: man I knew I wasn't going crazy... this is the 3rd different thread i've made a point in and Barnone questioned my intelligence and credentials....

When you and TUH were shytting on Islam everyday I was on my Jihad shyt against yall daily but outside of stupid jokes I never actually said some shyt like "Are you a Muslim? Have you majored in Islamic studies? What qualifies you to speak about Islam... you sound like you just took Islam 101 pro forma" or whatever... its like... who gives a fukk.

Last discussion we had about Obama's legacy in relation to the New Deal turned into Bar-None asking me if I have ever been in DC actually working with the real policy makers, and if not, I would never have a true grasp of how politics actually works I was like my nikka :mindblown:
 
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ACTUAL journalism and real questions presented today.

:wow:

White House reporters tried in vain to get information from press secretary Jay Carney about a newly released paper that deals with the Obama administration's killing of American citizens.

The paper, which was obtained by NBC News, lays out some of the government's justification for the assassination of Americans with drone strikes. The memo says that the US can order the killing of Americans if they are believed to be senior Al Qaeda members, even if they are not actively plotting attacks.

Carney was asked about the paper at the very beginning of Tuesday's briefing. He called the strikes "legal, ethical and wise," and said that they were constitutionally sound. :troll:

“The president takes his responsibilities very seriously,” Carney said. “And first and foremost that’s his responsibility to protect the United States." He added that the strikes were conducted “in a way that is fully consistent with the Constitution and all the applicable laws." :dead:

And that, essentially, is all he would say, despite a torrent of questions about the paper.

ABC's Jon Karl wondered why it was more humane to "drop a bomb" on someone than to torture them. He also asked about the ACLU's blistering criticism of the paper.

Carney kept referring to a speech given by John Brennan, the current nominee for CIA chief, and saying that the program was consistent with the Constitution.

"You're taking away a citizen's due process," CBS' Bill Plante said. "Doesn't it deserve a broader debate at a broader court hearing?"

"The administration has ... reviewed these issues," Carney said. "Shouldn't they be considered beyond the executive branch?" Plante pressed.

"Internally, they have been reviewed with great care," Carney said.


:dead::dead::dead:

NBC's Kristen Welker asked how the administration's stated desire for transparency squared with the secrecy surrounding the program.

"We need to inform the public the process that we're undertaking and the reasoning behind it, and the white paper that was provided to some members of Congress ... is part of that process," Carney said.

"But it was leaked," Welker pointed out.

"What is the administration's argument against releasing some form of the actual memos?" another reporter asked.

"I think it was a news organization that Kristen works for has put it out online," Carney replied, saying that reporters should read it now that it was available.

"Well, we request that you put it out," the reporter replied. "It is out there online," Carney said.

"It's not the same thing!" the reporter exclaimed. "I take your point," Carney said.


"Why does the government believe it's legal to kill Americans abroad, but not inside the US?" NPR's Ari Shapiro wondered. "There's no Constitutional distinction — it's just that capture is not feasible [inside the US]? If imminence is one of the major tests, a plot in the United States would be more imminent than something abroad?"

:damn::damn::damn:

White House Reporters Pepper Jay Carney With Questions About Drone Memo



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Press Briefing by Press Secretary Jay Carney, 2/5/13 | The White House
 

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It's such a beautiful and rare thing when the media is on the side of the people. 4th Estate.

But it seemed to stop there. A lot of news orgs did not lead off with it.
 

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:laugh: i love this, i say drone them all , the best part though to me about all this outrage is the people who are really like :ohhh: "my government would do such a thing??" or "this is not the america i love, were all about hearts mind?? "


bbbbbbbut this is americaaaaaaaa
 

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Yeah that's what I don't get about dude. He comes off mad angry and abrasive and always tries to belittle people then turns around and tries to lecture people about tone and debate ettiquette. :wtf: That's the issue I had with him when he was trying to get at me about how I argue then got on some "I'm smarter than you!" shyt. I'm like do you read your own posts?

@BarNone you're an arrogant a$$hole. Nothing wrong with it. Embrace it.

I'm not though.

But that's your opinion.
 
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@BarNone bunch of :wrist: around here , dudes talking about "o you come off as angry" :stopitslime: sound like broads talking to they BF's, same sensitive dudes typing tough running around asking for pics with a bit of blood to get censored
 
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:laff: man I knew I wasn't going crazy... this is the 3rd different thread i've made a point in and Barnone questioned my intelligence and credentials....

When you and TUH were shytting on Islam everyday I was on my Jihad shyt against yall daily but outside of stupid jokes I never actually said some shyt like "Are you a Muslim? Have you majored in Islamic studies? What qualifies you to speak about Islam... you sound like you just took Islam 101 pro forma" or whatever... its like... who gives a fukk.

Last discussion we had about Obama's legacy in relation to the New Deal turned into Bar-None asking me if I have ever been in DC actually working with the real policy makers, and if not, I would never have a true grasp of how politics actually works I was like my nikka :mindblown:

This is my last post on the subject, did you ever think about why I only ever questioned YOU, not anyone else, but YOU...think about it. Because (a) I actually take a lot of the shyt you say serious like when you were kicking some shyt at me about Canadian politics and some econ once and (b) you come in threads typing in all caps insinuating that everyone has lost their damn mind and that they're stupid or not going hard enough because they're black americans, etc.

I just don't believe that you're in a position to state (b) without supporting it. And you don't, but you're capable of supporting other shyt like your economics. So I can only make the assumption that you're operating with a less than nuanced perspective. Which I think is beneath you. It's that simple. There is no analogy between our interactions and the arguments VVD and I had once. That's basically it because you know and I know, you're obviously not the only person on this board that I disagree with.
 

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@BarNone bunch of :wrist: around here , dudes talking about "o you come off as angry" :stopitslime: sound like broads talking to they BF's, same sensitive dudes typing tough running around asking for pics with a bit of blood to get censored

Why'd you up that article without me :thiswork:
 
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this shyt can't be real


Conspiracy theorists are gonna be the targets..

Anyone with anti government rhetoric..

so a lot of u nikkaz might be on the radar, better stop posting that shyt or get hit with a drone strike:whew:
 

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Caught some of the conference with Carney from internet clips, and that "legal, ethical and wise," bit was gold. Will see what comes of this story in the next few days, I suppose.
 
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