Lord_Chief_Rocka
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No they need to just go away. Have the service at the someone’s house.
The land/building can be put to better use
America’s Epidemic of Empty Churches: 6,000 to 10,000 churches die each year in America
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The land/building can be put to better use
Lord_Chief_Rocka
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Young people don’t primarily get their news from establishment media
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Lord_Chief_Rocka
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This too but I still don’t think it’s close to 70%People are religious in name only mfs don’t follow the Bible you know that. Republicans would hate Jesús if he came back
I think thats a good thing in a way. A lot of dumb/inhumane shyt is done on the name of religion 
Either way i only read 2/3 of the article and didnt see the gay shyt people keep replying about
Either way i only read 2/3 of the article and didnt see the gay shyt people keep replying about
Just goes to show that cats on here think that ALL pastors are "pimps" who take all of the offering money and buy lavish things for themselves and their families...
Nah, most of the churches out here (especially in the black community) have less than 150 members. Local people coming to worship and handle church biz. Not EVERY pastor is Crefflo or TD. They not ALL riding in G5's and asking their members to pay for them. Nah, a LOT of pastors are really out here trying to bring souls to Christ. Putting up their own money or not even taking a salary...working full time jobs and still making time to write sermons (my dad spent no less than 20-40 hrs a week doing that, researching, praying on it, writing and editing, etc)and visit sick members, burying the dead, taking care of the bills of the church, planning programs, etc it's hard work... A lot of the times their families suffer (I've experienced it first hand) because the pastor is doing so much for everyone else, he has little for his own family...
Most cities looking to turn old churches (a lot of them in prime real estate locations) into condos, housing, parking lots and the like...
folks would really be surprised to find out what the ministry really takes...it's not easy...but MOST pastors aren't living like TD Jakes and those mega pastors...a lot of them really care about their "flock" and want nothing but the best for the members and their families...But don't let none of that stop yall from ranting about how ya'll hate the church and why it doesn't make sense to YOU. Just wanted to share my perspective. I grew up as a PK (preacher's kid) and still am. Pops isn't so much a pastor now as he is dean/president of a seminary. He still preaches, just doesn't pastor anymore...wants to help teach/guide the young ministers in the faith
shame to hear this though. Churches are/should be a refuge to the community it serves
Nah, most of the churches out here (especially in the black community) have less than 150 members. Local people coming to worship and handle church biz. Not EVERY pastor is Crefflo or TD. They not ALL riding in G5's and asking their members to pay for them. Nah, a LOT of pastors are really out here trying to bring souls to Christ. Putting up their own money or not even taking a salary...working full time jobs and still making time to write sermons (my dad spent no less than 20-40 hrs a week doing that, researching, praying on it, writing and editing, etc)and visit sick members, burying the dead, taking care of the bills of the church, planning programs, etc it's hard work... A lot of the times their families suffer (I've experienced it first hand) because the pastor is doing so much for everyone else, he has little for his own family...
Most cities looking to turn old churches (a lot of them in prime real estate locations) into condos, housing, parking lots and the like...
folks would really be surprised to find out what the ministry really takes...it's not easy...but MOST pastors aren't living like TD Jakes and those mega pastors...a lot of them really care about their "flock" and want nothing but the best for the members and their families...But don't let none of that stop yall from ranting about how ya'll hate the church and why it doesn't make sense to YOU. Just wanted to share my perspective. I grew up as a PK (preacher's kid) and still am. Pops isn't so much a pastor now as he is dean/president of a seminary. He still preaches, just doesn't pastor anymore...wants to help teach/guide the young ministers in the faith
shame to hear this though. Churches are/should be a refuge to the community it serves
They have to get that 501c3 tax exempt shyt and it helps when you walk into an established church instead of starting one from anew. Just because you are called to bring the word doesn't mean you are called to run and manage an operation like this.
In the Church of God in Christ
Elders have to pay dues of like 500, ministers 250, members 50-100, etc. per year. Churches have to pay like 750-1000 or they lose licensing and the property goes back to COGIC unless its your own building.
The whole COGIC has become a ponzi scheme, and I remember at convocations in Birmingham we actually had an elder in the pulpit strapped up at all times, even when preaching
Churches may fold but the big churches are not going anywhere, too many people are invested in it.
Google Bishop Sedgwick Daniels of Milwaukee, WI
As long as he is eating, those other 105 churches he supervised were just feeder churches.
I didn't know COGIC went that hard.
We have a cogic guy up here in MI that also has over 100 churches under him...
Most of these cogic bishops are eating good.
Shame cuz pastor Mason who founded cogic decades ago was sorta pro black and community focused
Just goes to show that cats on here think that ALL pastors are "pimps" who take all of the offering money and buy lavish things for themselves and their families...
Nah, most of the churches out here (especially in the black community) have less than 150 members. Local people coming to worship and handle church biz. Not EVERY pastor is Crefflo or TD. They not ALL riding in G5's and asking their members to pay for them. Nah, a LOT of pastors are really out here trying to bring souls to Christ. Putting up their own money or not even taking a salary...working full time jobs and still making time to write sermons (my dad spent no less than 20-40 hrs a week doing that, researching, praying on it, writing and editing, etc)and visit sick members, burying the dead, taking care of the bills of the church, planning programs, etc it's hard work... A lot of the times their families suffer (I've experienced it first hand) because the pastor is doing so much for everyone else, he has little for his own family...
Most cities looking to turn old churches (a lot of them in prime real estate locations) into condos, housing, parking lots and the like...
folks would really be surprised to find out what the ministry really takes...it's not easy...but MOST pastors aren't living like TD Jakes and those mega pastors...a lot of them really care about their "flock" and want nothing but the best for the members and their families...But don't let none of that stop yall from ranting about how ya'll hate the church and why it doesn't make sense to YOU. Just wanted to share my perspective. I grew up as a PK (preacher's kid) and still am. Pops isn't so much a pastor now as he is dean/president of a seminary. He still preaches, just doesn't pastor anymore...wants to help teach/guide the young ministers in the faith
shame to hear this though. Churches are/should be a refuge to the community it serves
Yup majority of churches pastor ain’t making a cent. More than likely he’s dipping in his own pocket to cover all the bills.
I am not racist and black people can never be but I was raised to never let another white person teach me about the Bible you all need to rebuke that demon and not listen to whatever she says about the word, the devil knows the word too.
She fukking Black Israelites and he getting her bread and attention. She studying the word but if she respected us she would shut the fukk up when we are discussing our interpretations of God. It’s bad enough this shyt is translated from Greek, let us fukking live without you manipulating shyt
She fukking Black Israelites and he getting her bread and attention. She studying the word but if she respected us she would shut the fukk up when we are discussing our interpretations of God. It’s bad enough this shyt is translated from Greek, let us fukking live without you manipulating shyt
It's no wonder. The internet has given birth to all kinds of new religions. The alt-right, armchair militants/ankh-right, feminazis, Trump supporters, clout chasers, IG thots, gooning/thugging.... any bullshyt blanket you wanna wrap yourself up in is just a Google search and social media hashtag away.
Why go to church when false idols to be praised are at your fingertips? :weazle:
Why go to church when false idols to be praised are at your fingertips? :weazle:
GoAggieGo.
getting blitzed.
I’ve said it on here, but at the church I was attending back in MS, the pastor worked at the shipyard. He ran a small church with probably 30 or 40 of us. The building wasn’t anything special, as I suspected he came out of his pocket on a lot of things. He nor the members had much, but they’d always have a back to school drive for the kids, and feed a few families during thanksgiving. If you went and asked the pastor, or were a youth expressing that you were trying to get a job, he’d buy you a suit.
He and others are reasons I didn’t really pay much attention to the Coli’s views on preachers. Most aren’t on some Creflo mess. Most are out here trying to make a living like the rest of us, while answering their call from the Lord.
He and others are reasons I didn’t really pay much attention to the Coli’s views on preachers. Most aren’t on some Creflo mess. Most are out here trying to make a living like the rest of us, while answering their call from the Lord.
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Thank God!
The churches in America are some of the b*stard untrustworthy places to place one's faith in.
The churches in America are some of the b*stard untrustworthy places to place one's faith in.
GoAggieGo.
getting blitzed.
I see a lot of people bash the church, and while I agree the church has fallen off and could be better, I believe church is still necessary. Congregation with fellow believers is crucial.
I mention the church has fallen off, but I believe society overall has fallen.
I mention the church has fallen off, but I believe society overall has fallen.
The “word” is effective because the messengers presented a message relevant to the time and the people. Most churches of now are not presenting anything relevant to todays times hence you only find old women in churches.