An 8-Year-Old Boy Loaded a Rifle and Repeatedly Shot His 4-Year-Old Sister, Prosecutor Says

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This guy @DEAD7 is still pushing those bullshyt arguments after being schooled on gun control on multiple occasions.

I answered every point you tried to bring up months ago when discussing the steps that Australia had taken, yet here you are.

The stamina of the right wing propaganda machine on display.

:wow:
 

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:wow:There it is...



:manny:Just to be clear, i don’t think you are wrong, I just don’t think there is anything worthwhile we can do legislatively and throwing regulations at the issue in order to make us feel better is something I’m against.

Its an expenditure of social resources with likely little to no real return...
Outside of placating moral relavist
Less guns = less gun related deaths.

It's actually that simple. Really. Restricting the ease with which people can obtain guns has been proven to reduce gun deaths in multiple states and countries. It's not up for debate.

Interesting that implementing proven strategies to decrease gun deaths is equivalent to "placating morals" to you.

If only the right would throw up their hands in defeat so quickly when trying to take medical coverage away from poor people.
 

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regulations would have no effect

okay, here's some regulations

:damn:NOOOOOOOOO THIS HURTS THE FEELINGS OF GUN OWNERS (btw i am very smart and only use facts, not feelings, owned libs, sarcastic dap)
:umad:I said negligible effect... if you’re resorting to making things up I know you’re in your feels.
 

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This guy @DEAD7 is still pushing those bullshyt arguments after being schooled on gun control on multiple occasions.

I answered every point you tried to bring up months ago when discussing the steps that Australia had taken, yet here you are.

The stamina of the right wing propaganda machine on display.

:wow:
Australia instituted a ban... that’s not what’s being pushed by liberals(so they say)... not sure why a side by side comparison is being made.

There are nations with lax gun laws and less crime too...
Doesn’t really mean much in my opinion. In my opinion no other country is close enough in size, wealth, wealth disparity, culture, and diversity to make a meaningful comparison.

But I’m willing to listen, explain exactly what Australia’s ban means for the U.S. and why it’s Australia we should look to?
 

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Less guns = less gun related deaths.

It's actually that simple. Really. Restricting the ease with which people can obtain guns has been proven to reduce gun deaths in multiple states and countries. It's not up for debate.

Interesting that implementing proven strategies to decrease gun deaths is equivalent to "placating morals" to you.

If only the right would throw up their hands in defeat so quickly when trying to take medical coverage away from poor people.
Link to the reductions in gun deaths directly attributed to background checks?
:ehh:

And are we allowed to consider examples like Illinois where such measures have proven worthless?
Or Arizona which has lax gun laws the second highest(per capita) gun ownership rate and one of the lowest crime rates in the country?
:ld:
Or do we need to focus on the states and countries that fit your narrative?
 

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:whoo:That liberal bush immunity.
If anyone's bush-bound its you, if you keep trying to casually pass off Conservative talking points (aka bullshyt) as matters of fact hoping no one will notice or know better.

Truth matters. Facts matter. Your feelings do not. :manny:
 

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If anyone's bush-bound its you if you keep trying to casually pass off Conservative talking points (aka bullshyt) as matters of fact hoping no one will notice ir know better.

Truth matters. Facts matter. Your feelings do not. :manny:
Being opposed to increased gun control is definitely more bush worthy in HL than calling people homosexual slurs... of that I am certain.
:ehh:
At least we agree on something.
 

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Being opposed to increased gun control is definitely more bush worthy in HL than calling people homosexual slurs... of that I am certain.
:ehh:
At least we agree on something.
Must be the will of the Globalist cabal
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Australia instituted a ban... that’s not what’s being pushed by liberals(so they say)... not sure why a side by side comparison is being made.

There are nations with lax gun laws and less crime too...
Doesn’t really mean much in my opinion. In my opinion no other country is close enough in size, wealth, wealth disparity, culture, and diversity to make a meaningful comparison.

But I’m willing to listen, explain exactly what Australia’s ban means for the U.S. and why it’s Australia we should look to?
We've already been through this. Australia didn't just implement a ban, they did all of the following:

"He noted that, among other things, the Australian government “banned automatic and semiautomatic firearms, adopted new licensing requirements, established a national firearms registry, and instituted a 28-day waiting period for gun purchases. It also bought and destroyed more than 600,000 civilian-owned firearms, in a scheme that cost half a billion dollars and was funded by raising taxes.” The entire overhaul, Friedman pointed out, took just months to implement."

The idea that you can't compare things because they're not exactly the same is nonsense. Australia is just one example, and it's a conservative talking point to say that imperfect measures mean we shouldn't do anything.

Link to the reductions in gun deaths directly attributed to background checks?
:ehh:

And are we allowed to consider examples like Illinois where such measures have proven worthless?
Or Arizona which has lax gun laws the second highest(per capita) gun ownership rate and one of the lowest crime rates in the country?
:ld:
Or do we need to focus on the states and countries that fit your narrative?
Go to google and type in "gun deaths in states with strict gun control" and take your pick of articles.

It's rich for you to mention fitting an narrative when you're cherry picking facts. Illinois is bordered by Indiana, which has lax gun control. Guns flow freely from Indiana to Illinois, which can also be found through a simple Google search.

Good on Arizona, but one example doesn't mean that inaction is the best choice.

Narrative :heh:
 

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Analysis | Where the guns used in Chicago actually came from

This pattern is not unique to Chicago. States with tougher gun laws often discover that places with more lax legislation are the source of many of the firearms used in crimes.

Last year, the attorney general of New York issued a report about the flow of guns into his state. Attorney General Eric Schneiderman identified what he called the “iron pipeline,” a string of East Coast states through which guns flowed into the state.

In New York City, for example, nearly 9 in 10 firearms come from out of state.

@DEAD7 :jbhmm:
 

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My point was that there are states where it works and states where it doesn’t. States with tons of guns and low gun crime, states with relatively low gun ownership and high gun crime...
It’s not as simple as saying if there’s more guns there will necessarily be more gun deaths... and Arizona proves this empirically.
If you wanna say that’s one state, that’s fine, but let’s look at your post. Indiana has I believe the third highest gun ownership rate and extremely lax gun laws, yet its gun crime is relatively low and completely dwarfed by Illinois next door which has strict gun laws...
Please explain how looking at this you find the number of guns to be the variable we should be legislating to reduce gun violence and death?
 
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