Ana Kasparian (TYT) leaves the Democratic Party; UPDATE: Ana now works for PBD on rightwing view type show, It's over

[Outlaw]

How would you feel if Dems had had that reaction to passing the Civil Right Act of 1964? Do any of you not find it interesting that many of the most anti trans people are also anti-DEI? Christopher Rufo? Trump? Elon? This is not a referendum on the pros/cons of DEI programs, but I hope those of us that post on here know what they really mean when they are talking about meritocracy, yet nominating Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard.

One has to ask oneself why someone like Napoleon, who is not an idiot IMO, can concede that someone like Christopher Rufo is a bigot in the context of his anti-DEI push, yet will parrot his same talking points word for word on the trans issue anD even ask why trans people should exist.

All the things that are saying about trans people rhyme with the things they used to say about us, yet so many of us are willing to parrot their talking points.

Sometimes the right thing do is not the thing that is most politically expedient. If the Democratic Party no longer wants to be the party that stands up for marginalized communities, then what exactly will they stand for?

‘We may have lost the south’: what LBJ really said about Democrats in 1964

"A brilliant political analyst, Johnson foresaw the consequences of his civil rights legislation on the day he signed it into law. He is said to have remarked: “We’ve lost the south for a generation.”

Civil rights act is not the same as allowing trans women to play in women sports. It’s disrespectful to use black suffering as a stepping stone for glorified elective procedures



I’ll ask you the same question. Voters care about the issue more than you think.

Are you willing to sacrifice Republican control of the three branches of government so that trans women can play in women’s sports?

 

[Frump]

How would you feel if Dems had had that reaction to passing the Civil Right Act of 1964? Do any of you not find it interesting that many of the most anti trans people are also anti-DEI? Christopher Rufo? Trump? Elon? This is not a referendum on the pros/cons of DEI programs, but I hope those of us that post on here know what they really mean when they are talking about meritocracy, yet nominating Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard.

One has to ask oneself why someone like Napoleon, who is not an idiot IMO, can concede that someone like Christopher Rufo is a bigot in the context of his anti-DEI push, yet will parrot his same talking points word for word on the trans issue anD even ask why trans people should exist.

All the things that are saying about trans people rhyme with the things they used to say about us, yet so many of us are willing to parrot their talking points.

Sometimes the right thing do is not the thing that is most politically expedient. If the Democratic Party no longer wants to be the party that stands up for marginalized communities, then what exactly will they stand for?

‘We may have lost the south’: what LBJ really said about Democrats in 1964

"A brilliant political analyst, Johnson foresaw the consequences of his civil rights legislation on the day he signed it into law. He is said to have remarked: “We’ve lost the south for a generation.”

Here’s the bottom line. You can play purity Olympics and not budge on anything and try to win/fight every battle for trans people and if you lose then trans people are fukked like what’s currently happening

Or you could play the game of politics and while not getting everything you want but if Dems win at least trans peoples basic human rights are in tact

 

[wire28]

I'm more fixated how much of a dumb individual you turned into; you're in a thread about tyt( something you never watched according to you) clapping like a circus seals because the cac mamba is a strong supporter of " shytting on the opposition ". man said he doesnt even have an opinion on transgender rights and is here showing his gums in glee . I see how cults happen, it's time for you to log off and find something you actually stand for instead of a blue democrat flag in your back pocket

You’re in your own thread (about TYT which you may remember you said you don’t watch, funny times then), arguing with multiple people (including myself who said nothing to you in the first place). But you (hell bent on ironically defending your own group of flunkies) raced in because you are desperate for attention, attention which you are no longer getting from me today.

Again seek help. You are mentally unwell.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Why should there not for any reason other than that you are a bigot?

What am I bigoted towards?

Funny to see you talk about Christoper Rufo in a negative fashion (this was a few months or maybe a year back) when your viewpoints overlap so much.

Rufo is a racist

Men have biological and scientific advantages in every single sport? I must have missed the link that explicitly says this. Can you share this?

Lets forget the advantages or differences.

Should women even have separate sports?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Like I said, I don't care if they want to wear a dress. The whole issue of transgenderism is they want society to participate in their cosplay. The moment you get to "My name is Susan now, you must call me Susan or she/her even though it's obvious I'm a man in a dress and you must let me participate anywhere in society that used to be restricted to women" is where I draw the line.

And that is the only line that legally matters as far as I care

The whole problem with this movement is they pitched it as "let trannies live" when really what they're pushing for is legal acceptance of men in dresses as women.

This went beyond cosplay. It transformed into exploitative bullying.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

So your telling me you dont care about some men having genetic advantages over other men? Being born with higher natural testosterone isn't an issue to you ?

Should we have separate women’s sports?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Nah, people can do whatever they want. I don’t care how someone dresses or who they have consenting relationships with.

If being trans makes someone happy then go for it.

Again, I “don’t care” because I don’t think its real.

For me, it’s how I approach religion as a secular humanist/atheist.

i.e. “That shyt is weird but you invented something to give you purpose while you spend your time on this earth…but dont expect me to do the heavy lifting for you"

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

It's this simple gender roles in society and biological sex are not the same thing. One is created and defined by society and the other is created by genetics.

That is not an opinion it's pure fact. The problem is many people think gender roles and society and biological sex are the same thing. Women aren't born wearing dresses and playing with Barbies society conditions and raises them into that.

Do transgenders who “don’t pass” have this much leniency from you?

I’m not a conservative. I’m not saying “butch lesbians” are pretending to be men. Nor am I saying “effeminate gay men” are literally women.

If your gender identity and physical body are misaligned what the hell do you think that is?

I dispute whether or not that is even possible, given the existence of butch lesbians ore effeminate men.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

If you don't realize how tax cuts for billionaires have a tangible impact, then maybe you shouldn't be discussing fiscal policy. Tax revenue funds our government and cutting taxes for billionaires reduces that revenue. This isn't rocket science, those tax cuts affect everybody.

I’m being facetious.

This is where the fact that there are less than 1% of trans people in America and even fewer playing sports. Your kids aren't going lose opportunities because 8 out of 560,000 athletes were trans. I wonder if any of them even got scholarships. But even if all 8 kids got scholarships there would be 195,992 more athletic scholarships available. Not to mention nearly 2 million academic scholarships.

Your kids are extremely unlikely to compete against a trans athlete, and if they can't get recruited or scholarships, it's not because of trans athletes.

Why should it be possible for this to even be a thing?

You keep avoiding this.

You're literally making my point for me. Why do you think this should be a political issue if it's already been address by the commissions? We don't need laws or bans on trans athletes. Let actual experts set the rules.

So why are you defending what the leagues themselves have already stood down against?

Also, the laws are necessary because of TITLE IX

So , one more time...If you think trans participation in sports should be a political issue that's deciding votes, you're weird.

You keep telling us we need “normie dems” and policies that can be digested by the masses and focus on real issues…

and you dont know what a male or female is….

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You should probably learn how to be in the presence of something you disagree with and be ok with it. Once you do calling someone who was born a man Susan isn't that big a deal. What they eat doesn't make you shit.

Out in the regular world you'll constant encounter things you disagree with and don't approve of. It's not that big a deal.

A name is one thing, reality is another.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

you even apart of the bigotry group now. We punished you into blue maga submission

Calling people bigoted doesn’t win you any more points than explaining what it is that you have a problem with, directly

 

[wire28]

Most trans people think progressive activists have gone too far with this sh1t because they knew it was gonna rub some people the wrong way and create a pushback and at this point they want more important victories like basic human rights which they’re losing with Trump and they’ll deal with the other less important stuff later like playing sports or what pronouns to use later on

Lost in the Inducing hours long back and forth is this

Probably should listen to the community and see what they think is important at this moment.

Back to the

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I can't escape the this tranny. Almost every damn fukking thread. Imma keep it a buck...the nazis on reddit who actually hate trans don't go on about them as much as this site does. Or their convos never devolve into tranny discussions.

Dems are losing this issue like 80-20 and the most vocal activists would rather die on this hill and equate it to some civil rights violation than to step back, reassess and make legitimate political asks.

 

[Outlaw]

Number one thing democrats can do is purge purity politics as a guiding light from the party. Nobody agrees on everything and nobody should be canceled for disagreeing on fringe issues .

A common criticism of democrats is an authenticity problem.

It’s hard to be authentic if you’re worried about getting canceled by a large swath of the base for not being pure enough

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

How many times have you thrown Indian racial slurs at Napoleon. You pick and choose your bigotry and aren’t consistent with your ideology

They also insinuate you have sexual attraction to trannies or want to engage in some sort of secret degenerate act which is itself a slap in the face to the people they claim to care about.