Andrew Gillum Might Run for President in 2020
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hope gillum doesn't run just yet. he has momentum and a good platform to build on. getting some local wins under his belt first might be a better strategy for the long term. don't think beto should run yet either. if both of these guys keep building they can very well be ahead of the pack come '24.
I see, so you guys still dont remember how Obama came out of no where just about. There is no real difference between Obama and Gill except for Gill is more known now then Obama was before he got the spotlight off of one speech.
You have to remember. social media is real now. it was not on this level when obama first ran. you have no idea who will get the love if going for the white house.
america was never supposed to elect the first one EVER. so never say never. you have no idea what america is going to do. If the youth roll with him. its over. They have more than enough to supplant that racist vote.
Two issues there.
One is that Obama was known and then able to ramp up his popularity heavy cause he was a dynamic speaker. Gillum hasn't made that splash yet.
Second is that Obama was a U.S. Senator for FOUR YEARS before he ran for president. You say that Gillum is more known than Obama was before that speech, but that speech came in 2004, FOUR YEARS before he ran for president. Gillum's only got 2 years before the 2020 elections, he ain't got no national platform, he's never been a senator or governor, and he doesn't have that Obama speech moment. Obama was already way bigger in 2004 than Gillum can be.
The one thing they have in common is that they're both strong political organizers. But Gillum's spent his career organizing a Florida base, it takes a lot of work to ramp up national. Don't make him shoot his shot before his time is ready, not everything is about 2020. Let him get a bigger national stage (hopefully by winning a governorship or senate seat in 2022), and then build that base so he's ready in 2028 or something.
but no one was following obama post that speech. the speech put him on the map similar to how Gill's recent run put him on the map. Obama's hype did not follow him after that speech. it went to sleep in hibernation. it came back up once he actually ran for prez. him being a senator was just something to put on the resume when we the people still cared about your resume before you became prez. thats gone now thanks to your current idiot in the WH. Any human being can become prez now. literally ANY. As long as he/she is charismatic enough, can be quick on their feet in a debate(doesnt have to be a mud slinger but has to be quick and witty.) And lastly, similar to Obama. Gill is a good looking dude to white women. White women will vote for a good looking dude, especially a good looking bruh. thats the real reason why they voted for obama. remember americans are silly for the most part. we vote for the dumbest reasons. and thats one of them. All this "he needs to do this political thing first" is old hat. trump blew that up and out of the water.
back to 2004 obama. obama was not bigger than then gil is now. it has nothing to do with how you felt about obama back then. how did the masses feel about him back then? the masses never heard of him. a select few of us heard that speech and was like OK OK this dude is kinda nice right here. keep an eye on him.
Gil + current day media = automatically more pub nationally than obama got in 2004. you have to take that into consideration. put it this way. I'm in Cali and I knew about Gill and followed him during his run. I was late on that obama speech. I didnt even hear it when it went down i heard it a year or so later by happenstance. thats because there was no social media pushing it like they push everything thats the new hype.
Gil could run and actually win. AOC could run and actually win,Beto could run and actually win. Thanks to your friend trump and the current day media. it takes nothing to blow up nationally. you dont need to do the resume political stuff like you use to in order to be seen as viable. remember people actually thought the porn stars lawyer was a viable option just because he had two or three good jabs on twitter with trump. the bar has been severely lowered. throw that old playbook out of the window.
i don't know about that. obama served in the Illinois senate for 7 years before he became a state senator. he was also the dnc keynote speaker in 2004.
not saying gillum cant do it, just saying the comparisons are off because obama had a lot more experience.
Okay, let's run this down real clear-like.
2004: Obama is chosen as the KEYNOTE speaker at the Democratic National Convention. Not just a regular speaker, he pulled a KEYNOTE. At that moment he's already bigger than Gillum ever has been, and he was still over 4 years from the election when Gillum is less than 2 away.
2004: Obama wins election to the U.S. Senate. Again, a higher post than Gillum's ever had because Gillum lost his race.
2004: Obama's memoir, "Dreams from my Father", is republished. It becomes a bestseller. He had a best-selling book when you talking like no one knew him. And he's still FOUR YEARS away.
2005: Obama's memoir is published as an audiobook, read by him, along with his DNC speech. He WINS A GRAMMY for it, that's how popular he already was. Three years away.
2006: In the U.S. Senate Obama introduces the first legislation sponsored by him that gets signed into law, even though it's during the Bush administration
2006: Obama's second book, "The Audacity of Hope", becomes his 2nd best seller. Note that he is still over 2 years away from the 2008 election, more time than Gillum has now, and not only has he been a U.S. Senator for two years but he's famous enough that books become best-sellers solely because he's the one writing them. How big would a Gillum book be right now?
February 10, 2007: Obama declares his presidential bid.
At this point Obama had one of the most famous political speeches of the decade, two best-selling books, a Grammy, two years in the U.S. Senate, legislation signed into law with his name on it, and a ton of connections in Washington D.C.
Timing-wise, Gillum's two months away from that. Gillum has a failed bid for governor and...?
If Gillum was a big, charismatic, celebrity-like candidate, then maybe he'd have a chance anyway. But he's not, he's an organizer, he needs time to build. Don't set this man up to fail. He's not there yet. Give him time and he could be.
Breh, running a presidential campaign isn't all about how many "followers" you have. It takes massive work. Trump was able to circumvent some of that work only because he had decades as a world-famous figure, a huge following, and a perfect knack for driving the news cycle.
That ain't something just anyone can do. Gillum ain't no reality show celebrity, he doesn't have enormous numbers of people hanging on his every tweet, the media ain't following him like that. As evil and stupid as Trump is, the one thing he'd done his whole life is create a persona and control his media image. That's how he won.
2004: Obama is chosen as the KEYNOTE speaker at the Democratic National Convention. Not just a regular speaker, he pulled a KEYNOTE. At that moment he's already bigger than Gillum ever has been, and he was still over 4 years from the election when Gillum is less than 2 away.
2004: Obama wins election to the U.S. Senate. Again, a higher post than Gillum's ever had because Gillum lost his race.
2004: Obama's memoir, "Dreams from my Father", is republished. It becomes a bestseller. He had a best-selling book when you talking like no one knew him. And he's still FOUR YEARS away.
2005: Obama's memoir is published as an audiobook, read by him, along with his DNC speech. He WINS A GRAMMY for it, that's how popular he already was. Three years away.
2006: In the U.S. Senate Obama introduces the first legislation sponsored by him that gets signed into law, even though it's during the Bush administration
2006: Obama's second book, "The Audacity of Hope", becomes his 2nd best seller. Note that he is still over 2 years away from the 2008 election, more time than Gillum has now, and not only has he been a U.S. Senator for two years but he's famous enough that books become best-sellers solely because he's the one writing them. How big would a Gillum book be right now?
February 10, 2007: Obama declares his presidential bid.
At this point Obama had one of the most famous political speeches of the decade, two best-selling books, a Grammy, two years in the U.S. Senate, legislation signed into law with his name on it, and a ton of connections in Washington D.C.
Timing-wise, Gillum's two months away from that. Gillum has a failed bid for governor and...?
If Gillum was a big, charismatic, celebrity-like candidate, then maybe he'd have a chance anyway. But he's not, he's an organizer, he needs time to build. Don't set this man up to fail. He's not there yet. Give him time and he could be.
You better explain this "your" shyt in an acceptable way or you got a neg coming.
Breh, running a presidential campaign isn't all about how many "followers" you have. It takes massive work. Trump was able to circumvent some of that work only because he had decades as a world-famous figure, a huge following, and a perfect knack for driving the news cycle.
That ain't something just anyone can do. Gillum ain't no reality show celebrity, he doesn't have enormous numbers of people hanging on his every tweet, the media ain't following him like that. As evil and stupid as Trump is, the one thing he'd done his whole life is create a persona and control his media image. That's how he won.
Piff Perkins
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Gillum would be a pretty good VP choice. I don't think he'd win the nom over someone like Beto, but a Beto Gillum ticket sounds formidable.
mc_brew
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Mr Hate Coffee
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Can't spell Gillum without TWO Ls. 
breh gotta chill and focus his sites elsewhere for now.
breh gotta chill and focus his sites elsewhere for now.
Mr Hate Coffee
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2020 - Biden/Beto
2024 - Beto/Gillum (or a woman)
2028 - repeat of 2024
2024 - Beto/Gillum (or a woman)
2028 - repeat of 2024
Uncle Phil 36
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wrong.
AlbertPullhoez
The Takeover
I have a hard time imagining the Dems running with two guys that fresh. Usually older candidates pick a young running mate and vice-versa. Having two guys on the ticket who both have never won a statewide race seems unlikely.
Who makes any Castro buzz? I legit never hear it. It gives me the feel of one of those "Young Democratic Stars!" the party picks out who never amount to anything.
And besides, his smile just creeps me out.
