Andrew Luck vs. RG3: A Year Later, Who You Got?

[Majestic Pape]

Cam is and is going to end up better than all of these Year 2 QBs anyway.

 

[mrken12]

You're a Redskins fan so I know you're incapable of having an unbiased opinion on RG3. What I will say is that Luck had more TDs, more yards and is asked to do more in his offense than RG3 is. The Shanahan's didn't ask RG3 to make alot of progressions or reads. Play action, zone read, safe easy stuff. MMQB from Sports Illustrated explains it even better:



Colts leaned on Luck and ask him to do more at the line, with his progressions, pre snap, etc. Plus Luck is more durable & drama free. I'd take Luck with no question

Drama free? Based on what? The media creating a story out of nothing just for ratings? Calling RG3 a Diva is a major exaggeration and is based on nothing.

More durable? Did you see the ridiculous situations RG3 was getting put in by the coaches? It's a miracle that he only missed one full game. Most other QBs wouldn't have lasted too long either.

And like I mentioned before, Luck was playing in a weak division.

The numbers don't lie. But that's your opinion so it is what it is.

 

[UserNameless]

Looking at his numbers, for a rookie to have that much responsibility it makes sense that he would have a lot of interceptions and a below average QB rating.

You're a Redskins fan so I know you're incapable of having an unbiased opinion on RG3. What I will say is that Luck had more TDs, more yards and is asked to do more in his offense than RG3 is. The Shanahan's didn't ask RG3 to make alot of progressions or reads. Play action, zone read, safe easy stuff. MMQB from Sports Illustrated explains it even better: Colts leaned on Luck and ask him to do more at the line, with his progressions, pre snap, etc. Plus Luck is more durable & drama free. I'd take Luck with no question

Close thread. They don't hear don't yall tho.

 

[malbaker86]

I'm rolling w/Luck but y'all saying RG3 is cool w/me

 

[Chris.B]

Luck will last longer in the NFL...pure drop back passer.

He also had more TD's than RG3 and because of his style of play his stats will always be better than RG3

 

[Kenny West]

So it took Luck 300+ more attempts to get only 3 more passing TDs than RG3


but he's better huh

 

[AVXL]

Drama free? Based on what? The media creating a story out of nothing just for ratings? Calling RG3 a Diva is a major exaggeration and is based on nothing.

More durable? Did you see the ridiculous situations RG3 was getting put in by the coaches? It's a miracle that he only missed one full game. Most other QBs wouldn't have lasted too long either.

And like I mentioned before, Luck was playing in a weak division.

The numbers don't lie. But that's your opinion so it is what it is.

Like I said, you're a Redskins fan incapable of having an unbiased discussion on RG3. I get it. The excuse making & outright denial in your post is staggering though. RG3 is an attention whore and even if you believe the media has created every RG3 story, how many media created stories has Luck been involved with? I see you didn't even attempt to discuss the single read, play action dominated Skins offense RG3 plays in or will you deny that he plays in that offense too?

AFC South >> NFC East. Only gimmie in the AFC South is Jacksonville, last yr in the NFC East Philly was basically a gimmie, the Cowboys always disappoint and the Giants, who were mediocre last yr.

 

[UserNameless]

@Meet The Sniper

Of course he's gonna pass more man... read @AVXL's posts.

 

[AVXL]

Via MMQB

The greatest debate in football right now—Who is the NFL’s best young quarterback?—really isn’t a debate at all. The argument has just been skewed by perception and publicity. Colin Kaepernick was the “out of nowhere” Super Bowl starter last year. Robert Griffin III was the media darling and wounded fighter gutting it out down the stretch. Russell Wilson was the admired underdog. All three young stars were as lethal on the ground as they were through the air, igniting nationwide fervor about the “revolutionary” read-option.

But through all the commotion, one young quarterback was the unquestioned best of the bunch: Andrew Luck. Mobile QBs are sexy, but there has always been, and always will be, a distinct place in the NFL for a superstar drop-back passer. Luck is that and more.

And this:

Here’s what makes Luck special: his toughness and awareness in the pocket; his understanding of the synchronized timing between route combinations, protections and dropbacks; his sense for identifying defensive looks before the snap; his sense for confirming or rethinking defensive looks after the snap; his command for the subtle body-language mechanics that quarterbacks use to manipulate defenders (think Tom Brady’s shoulder flinches or Drew Brees’ hesitation fakes); an arm that is not super strong but powerful enough to always get the ball there on time; his accuracy, both off a plant-and-drive or on the move; his ability to extend plays in and out of the pocket.

These are skills the soon-to-be 24-year-old has shown, but not yet mastered. As is typical for any rookie, Luck’s performance was fairly erratic last year. He failed to complete more than 50% of his passes in each of Indy’s five final regular season games. This was partly due to Indianapolis’ receivers leading the league in drops, partly due to Luck trying to do too much in an offensive system ripe with downfield temptation. A third of Luck’s 18 interceptions came from his league-high 101 pass attempts of 20-plus yards downfield. But a lot of these temptations were on third or fourth reads in the progressions; that a rookie was consistently in a position to even take such risks is impressive. And there were plenty of times where Luck’s risks yielded rewards—like in his unbelievable 12-point, late fourth-quarter comeback at Detroit or the fourth-quarter game-winning drives he orchestrated against the Vikings, Packers, Titans (twice), Dolphins and Chiefs.

Luck AVERAGED 13 more passes A GAME than RG3. Of course he'll have more INTs than RG3 & make more mistakes, but RG3 played in a more conservative, safer offense. I prefer my QBs to be able to read through their progressions and survey the field on a regular basis. RG3 hasn't done that yet, Luck has.

 

[malbaker86]

Drama free? Based on what? The media creating a story out of nothing just for ratings? Calling RG3 a Diva is a major exaggeration and is based on nothing.

More durable? Did you see the ridiculous situations RG3 was getting put in by the coaches? It's a miracle that he only missed one full game. Most other QBs wouldn't have lasted too long either.

And like I mentioned before, Luck was playing in a weak division.

The numbers don't lie. But that's your opinion so it is what it is.

the nfc east wasnt so hot last year if you wanna go the division route

 

[gho3st]

Drama free? Based on what? The media creating a story out of nothing just for ratings? Calling RG3 a Diva is a major exaggeration and is based on nothing.

More durable? Did you see the ridiculous situations RG3 was getting put in by the coaches? It's a miracle that he only missed one full game. Most other QBs wouldn't have lasted too long either.

And like I mentioned before, Luck was playing in a weak division.

The numbers don't lie. But that's your opinion so it is what it is.

both rg3 and his dad blamed shanahan for the knee injury. and his bytchass complained through the media that he should be playing in the pre-season. when shanahan wanted him to be cleared first.....

 

[FTBS]

I see where you are going, but I would argue RG3 made "fewer mistakes" because he was asked to do A LOT less

Luck had almost as many completions a RG3 had total passes. It seems like he had more mistakes because he had a lot more responsibility in the offense than RG3 had, in turn he produced more.

That's true. Can't deny that. Luck had a non-existent run game so most of the offensive responsibility was on his shoulders.

Looking at his numbers, for a rookie to have that much responsibility it makes sense that he would have a lot of interceptions and a below average QB rating.

at people still using the "he was asked to do more" excuse for Luck. If he is better than RGIII, as you all are asserting, then that should still be apparent even while being asked to do more. Being asked to do more, in and of itself, doesn't make you better. You have to actually perform at a comparable or superior level while being asked to do more for that to be brought into play. Luck didn't do that. I am pretty sure RGIII could have managed 3 more TDs, 1100 more yds, and 13% lower completion % if asked to throw 200+ more times. RGIII had a higher TD% and lower INT % and avg. more Y/A. That's just passing. RGIII, even coming off an injury, is clearly the better runner. RGIII had a better running game, that he played a pretty big part in BTW. Morris >>> any of Luck's RBs. However, Wayne >>> any of RGIIIs receivers. So let's not act like he had no help.

Wilson is an upscale game manager. If they are down 14......game over

I guess you didn't watch the playoff game against the Skins last year huh?

 

[Hollywood Co]

I like RG3 but Luck is in the mode of a classic all pro QB and first season says he is well on his way to being that type of player.

RG3 is definitely at least talented as Luck and probably more so. Hard choice to make.

 

[mrken12]

the nfc east wasnt so hot last year if you wanna go the division route

The Giants and Cowboys were all playoff caliber teams. The Eagles before Vick got injured weren't exactly stinking it up.

 

[Consigliere]

The RG3 hate on this site is absurd or yall are incapable of not parroting whatever the latest meme/ talking point is.

RG3 got hurt last year. It happens in football. It could have been Kaep or Russy just as easily. It could've been any QB.

Luck doesnt even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as RG3.